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Post by yreg »

Hugsun wrote: post #298

Very interesting and extremely impressive! I tried using the voice chat in their app previously and was disappointed. The big UX problem was that it didn't try to understand when I had finished speaking. English is a second language and I paused a bit too long thinking of a word and it just started responding to my obviously half spoken sentence. Trying again it just became stressful as I had to rush my words out to…

I have the same ESL UX problem with all the AI assistants.

I do my work in english and talk to people just fine, but with machines it's usually awkward for me.

Also on your other note (demo seems to be very rambly), it bothered me as well. I don't want the AI to continue speaking, while having nothing to say until I interrupt it. Be brief. That can be solved through prompts at least.

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Post by IAmNotACellist »

jimkleiber wrote: post #508

I worry that this tech will amplify the cultural values we have of "good" and "bad" emotions way more than the default restrictions that social media platforms put on the emoji reactions (e.g., can't be angry on LinkedIn). I worry that the AI will not express anger, not express sadness, not express frustration, not express uncertainty, and many other emotions that the culture of the fine-tuners might believe are "bad…

Corporate safe AI will just be bland, verbose, milquetoast experiences like OpenAI's. Humans want human experiences and thus competition will have a big opportunity to provide it. We treat lack of drama like a bug, and get resentful when coddled and talked down to like we're toddlers.

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Post by wmurmann »

erickhill wrote: post #413

I think it’s safe to say Siri and Alexa are officially dead. They look like dusty storefront mannequins next to Battlestar replicants at this point.

If apple made Siri impressive then less people would need apps. Less apps = less revenue.

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Post by yreg »

ijidak wrote: post #533
Hugsun wrote: post #298

Very interesting and extremely impressive! I tried using the voice chat in their app previously and was disappointed. The big UX problem was that it didn't try to understand when I had finished speaking. English is a second language and I paused a bit too long thinking of a word and it just started responding to my obviously half spoken sentence. Trying again it just became stressful as I had to rush my words out to…

> I noticed that the AI in the demo seems to be very rambly I know this is a serious conversation, but when the presenters had to cut it off, I got flashbacks to Data in Star Trek TNG!! And 3PO in Star Wars! Human: "Shut up" Robot: "Shutting up sir" Turns out rambling AI was an accurate prediction!

There needs to be an override for this.

When you tell Siri to shut up, it either apologizes or complains about your behaviour. When you tell Alexa to shut up, it immediately goes silent.

I prefer the latter when it comes to computers.

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Post by sarreph »

The level that the hosts interrupted the voice assistant today worries me that we're about to instil that as normal behaviour for future generations.

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Post by borgdefense »

tgtweak wrote: post #305

I feel like gpt4 has gotten progressively less useful since release even, despite all the "updates" and training. It seems to give correct but vague answers (political even) more and more instead of actual results. It also tends to run short and give brief replies vs full length replies. I hope this isn't an artifact from optimization for scores and not actual function. Likewise it would be disheartening but not unhe…

I don't know, my experience is that it is very hard to tell if the model is better or worse with an update.

One day I will have an amazing session and the next it seems like it has been nerfed only to give better results than ever the next day. Wash, rinse , repeat and randomize that ordering.

So far, I would have not be able to tell the difference between 4 and 4o.

If this is the new 3.5 though then 5 will be worth the wait to say the least.

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Post by lottin »

cal85 wrote: post #495

We've had voice input and voice output with computers for a long time, but it's never felt like spoken conversation. At best it's a series of separate voice notes. It feels more like texting than talking. These demos show people talking to artificial intelligence. This is new. Humans are more partial to talking than writing. When people talk to each other (in person or over low-latency audio) there's a rich metadata…

But in this case you're not talking with a real person. Instinctively, I dislike a robot that pretends to be a real human being.

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Post by Tepix »

erickhill wrote: post #413

I think it’s safe to say Siri and Alexa are officially dead. They look like dusty storefront mannequins next to Battlestar replicants at this point.

Can OpenAI change your thermostat?
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