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This is shocking to me https://www.cbsnews.com/news/narita-airport-farm-takao-shito... "The best outcome would be for the airport to shut down," he said. "But what's important is to keep farming my ancestral land." I imagine most countries would just use eminent domain?
> And since it sits smack in the middle of the airport, one of Narita's two runways had to be built around it. That's not a runway, but a taxiway. Runways have no curves ever.
Why is it so hard to build an airport?
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> And since it sits smack in the middle of the airport, one of Narita's two runways had to be built around it. That's not a runway, but a taxiway. Runways have no curves ever.
Sometimes they do, eg; https://www.airnav.com/airport/S90
PS: That's really pretty dangerous, imagine having to compensate for crosswind changing directions, avoiding the trees at each side etc.. wow.
Re: Why is it so hard to build an airport?
#563The new Nancy Bird Walton airport in western Sydney is interesting. The existing airport is very close to the CBD and residential areas, and completely hemmed in by those and the bay it sits next to, so has little room to expand. It's also subject to a strict curfew being so close to residential areas. The new airport is huge, being built at an impressive speed, and is going to be on a new metro line (which strangely…
Knowing Australian real estate I'm pretty sure land around there was already marked for development before the airport was proposed as well (Oran Park, Twin Creeks) with many established suburbs in the flight path vicinity as evidenced by all the local news reports (Penrith was mentioned a lot just doing a google search now).
This was more of a case where the NIMBY's lost out for once I think. But generally NIMBYs in lower social economic areas generally do lose out which is what Western Sydney is. Its only the wealthier suburbs who successfully lobby against development in general. This is common worldwide; and an effective strategy to build more airports - place them in areas where its much harder for the community to build resistance (time poor, not as well connected to powerful interests, less wealthy, etc).
The sad part about this, as the article alludes to, is that the benefits are diffuse and are often enjoyed by people in areas not in the vicinity of the airport. The costs (noise, air pollution, etc) are borne by the locals.
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Another one: just 7000 people live in the City of London
That's not an example; you're just taking advantage of your hapless interlocutor's assumption that you're speaking English. The City of London and the city of London are distinct legal entities.
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Only half of Istanbul is in Europe (yes, the side with the Airport) and the other half and the rest of the country is Anatolia/Asia Minor. Turkey has many of the political markers of being in Europe but is really a unique situation and its leaders like to take the best of being European and not-European where it suits them. Do most people consider it a European country? Doubtful. I've never known any Turks who consid…
Both sides of Istanbul have airports, yes, airport s .
Sooooo what's your point?
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Japan is well known for violent political clashes. There is still a very obvious house in the middle of Narita Airport that you can see when flying in or out. There are roads to it underneath the airport.
This is shocking to me https://www.cbsnews.com/news/narita-airport-farm-takao-shito... "The best outcome would be for the airport to shut down," he said. "But what's important is to keep farming my ancestral land." I imagine most countries would just use eminent domain?
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Taxi is not the main way to leave airports in large part of the world.
I went digging out of curiosity, and it seems you are correct. According to this article [1], around 80 of the top 100 airports have rapid transit connections. [1] https://www.ptua.org.au/2015/10/29/busiest-airports-rail/
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Hong Kong recently added this, called In-town Check-in [1]. You can check in and drop your bags at the MTR Hong Kong station when taking the Airport Express. Can even drop off the bags up to a day in advance. Currently only open to Cathay Pacific customers though. [1] https://www.mtr.com.hk/en/customer/services/complom_checkin....
It's not recent - I have been using it since the mid-2000s, it's fantastic. It might have been shut during COVID, and just re-opened though.
Right airline, right boarding time etc... It's not available for 100% of flights out of HKG.
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> make it very inconvenient for passengers and staff to approach the airport by other means Absolutely not! High-speed train have many advantages, but serving stations with large, long-term parking lots is not one of them. After all, you don't need to disincentivize the approach: you just need to make it clear that the airport is there to stay, and maybe to grow three-fold, and that noise complaints will never be rec…
> noise complaints will never be receivable. But they are always receivable. Complainers will vote, will take control of local government, will lobby state and national government... "Complaints aren't receivable" policies never last.
And you won't care, because you have surrendered the zone surrounding the airport to a national authority, whose mandate is clearly linked to the mobility and who is not to report to local council.
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I too thought 'international' in the name meant something. Until I worked with a guy who was into gliders. They named the large empty grass field that you had to drive for an hour to get to an 'international' airport. It was basically just enough to get a very small airplane aloft with a glider attached. They thought it was funny they pulled it off.
"International" in the name of an airport signifies that it is certified to receive international flights. I'm pointing out the use of "International" in airport codes, not names.