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How to Start Google

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Re: How to Start Google

#562

This advice is horrible for 14 year olds - it’s the equivalent of saying hey kids go become a movie star, rock star, sports champion or rapper

I think most of it is good advice focusing on creativity, independence, crafting and tinkering – which traditional schooling is bad at. What’s toxic is the extreme rush of it all. You don't need to be successful business owner at 22. In fact, sounds like a good way to distort your perspective on life, and business. Incubators seem to like young people because they are gullible and investors can offer them less and get more control. If it was so important to be young in business, then how come they should listen to advice from those old farts? That’s the part that bugs me, it seems exploitative.

Another reason to play it slower is you can work and save for financial security beforehand, and you can build your network without going to MIT or Stanford. You’ll meet plenty of people working from all kinds of backgrounds. You’ll get to practice financial decision making. You’ll be a more well-rounded person who can empathize with different walks of life, (isn’t understanding people gospel in VC land?).

Re: How to Start Google

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I have mixed feelings about this, mostly because the stakes on giving people persuasive advice with an enviable track record in hand might be at its highest in a room full of 14/15-year olds. This is exactly the kind of thing that made me dramatically more ambitious and harder working when I started reading pg essays (pushing 20 years ago now), so I have a huge soft spot for the feeling/nostalgia that I got when I ju…

Watching videos on YouTube is in no way comparable to going to a quality university, being around likeminded ambitious young people, and interacting with professors and researchers directly.

Re: How to Start Google

#564

Any chance for me at 45 and without stellar academic background? Or just hope for better chance next life?

There are many entrepreneurs that got started late in life. They might not be running the most cutting edge technology companies, but there is more than one industry in the world.

Re: How to Start Google

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YMMV The happiest entrepreneurs I know got advanced degrees, had a solid career, developed plenty of contacts, then launched something in their 30s or 40s with substantially less risk than taking a punt on knowing what problems were worth solving while at University, or taking a punt on finding the right person to start a company with while at University, or taking a punt on having the wide range of skills required t…

I agree, it is damaging especially when you don't have a wealthy relative to fall back on.

I spent 3 years trying to keep a startup afloat after graduating from college. Most of my peers own a (some of them multiple) house now. I have 75k in my savings.

Re: How to Start Google

#566
What I want to know is how to become an individual that is able to obtain the kind of things that provide leverage. I already have the machines, I just don't have the platform to move around exciting events and I simply stay in my room. I don't even have a bank account afaik. My paypal account insists on using chinese language (it's cursed). I'm waiting for github to implement a currency I can use. Then again, maybe there's nothing I would do differently.

Re: How to Start Google

#567

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How rich do you insist on being? The bar to "can choose never to work again" is surprisingly low , it just requires a high savings rate which is quite achievable in this line of work.

Threshold for wealthy enough to "never work again" is actually very high if you have a mortgage and a couple kids you want to put through school, and are thinking about living past 75. Even here in Canada where healthcare is not really a cost, retirement and nursing homes constitute a huge expense that could go on for years in your last phase. I'm sitting on the accumulated wealth of 25 rather up-and-downish years in…

Hmmm. I don't know exactly what your personal financial circumstances are...but from what I understand salaries and benefits to be at Google, you're getting paid plenty, and it should be possible to save at least some of that. Do it for ten years, put it in a nice boring low-cost index fund, and watch the investment returns roll in, and you're looking at a pretty big nest egg by normal people standards.

Re: How to Start Google

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post #543

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This optimizes for Paul's outcomes not for the individual outcomes. I don't get your comment. Are you saying PG is trying to deter and throw off teenagers so they don't compete in the space he invested in?

No, they're saying 1000 bets on random foundational technology means PG is more likely to have a startup to invest in that's a winner, then necessarily giving good advice to the individual founder who doesn't have 1000 turns at the wheel.

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Re: How to Start Google

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post #552

I was really excited to open this thinking it would be a thought experiment on how to restart all of Google's services if they ever went down all at the same time. Was mildly disappointed to find that this was about starting the next Google.

yeah, I had an idea for a new search engine and was hoping to get an idea of how to do it :(

Well, just give it a try.
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