Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

Post by plank » Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 7:36 AM UTC

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blackberry didn't seem to care about regular consumers until it was to late, instead relying on corporate customers and relying on integration with enterprise messaging software. windows was well windows 8 and everyone hated it and everything about it. (and pre-windows phone 8 it was to fragmented with to many incompatible versions and little 3rd party support) Palm/HP WebOS was the real mobile OS with the best chanc…

I think a lot of lessons learned around iPhone 2007-2012 have to do with looking at the elephant in the room. Blackberry was doing great with keyboards and refused to sell more of. Windows Mobile had tons of muscles as market share they just trimmed off. Windows Phone had Marketplace trust issue that couldn't be solved. Nokia burned itself down before Google. Palm did most of it right, but couldn't be bothered with e…

Post by jfoster » Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 7:55 AM UTC

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Difficult to imagine what Apple were thinking in the first place. Did they actually think there was a chance the EU would let this slide? Best I can tell, all they've achieved is bringing even greater scrutiny on themselves.

When reason fails to explain people's actions, it gives you a measure of the strength of their ideology on something. In this case, you can see how deeply they believe in the concept of complete authoritarian control of their ecosystem. Enough that logic and practical outcomes barely matter in comparison.

Post by bigfudge » Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 8:18 AM UTC

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> Apple backed down, like they did a week ago with PWAs. Eh. Backing down would be Apple allowing non-WebKit browsers to run PWAs.

They had entirely removed support for PWAs. Putting them back was backing down. They will have to open them to other engines eventually.

Post by subtra3t » Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 8:47 AM UTC

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When reason fails to explain people's actions, it gives you a measure of the strength of their ideology on something. In this case, you can see how deeply they believe in the concept of complete authoritarian control of their ecosystem. Enough that logic and practical outcomes barely matter in comparison.

That ideology hasn't stopped them from becoming the most valuable company in the world, so I wouldn't disregard it from the point of view of practical outcomes.

Post by ein0p » Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 8:51 AM UTC

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From the article > “Following conversations with Epic, they have committed to follow the rules, including our DMA policies. As a result, Epic Sweden AB has been permitted to re-sign the developer agreement and accepted into the Apple Developer Program.”

This is Apple's propaganda to try and save face. What happened is the EU stepped in and explained to them what the consequences of breaking the DMA would be. Apple backed down, like they did a week ago with PWAs.