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Re: Thanks FedEx, this is why we keep getting phished

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ar0 wrote: post #56
Repulsion9513 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...

I do not read this court decision like that at all: the point of contention there seems to be that the customer was just sent a link to a webpage (where the contractual terms can be changed from under him at will by the company, thus this not being durable). The court makes it pretty clear in my (non-lawyer) opinion that attaching a PDF to the email would have been fine.

> There's an EU law demanding such documents to be delivered on a "durable medium". Some banks and financial institutions may have a strange approach to those, even though email attachments seem to be enough for others.

Even the (*-grand)parent never said the law actually says it can't be an email attachment, they said companies seem to interpret it that way. Which would not be surprising in the least. Then someone said they've never heard of any such law, and I pointed out that it exists.

I'm not sure who you're arguing with but it isn't me or in fact any of the people in this thread.

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Post by Repulsion9513 »

yau8edq12i wrote: post #231
Repulsion9513 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...

Putting aside the fact that the conclusion of this text is not at all what GP said... You do realize that this is not a law, not even a court decision, but that it is a prosecutor's opinion / suggestion to the court??

Putting aside what? Go back and read what the GP actually said, and what the parent comment (yours) actually said as well. All I was pointing out is that there is in fact such a law (requiring a durable medium), because you said you had never heard of such a law.

Sheesh, reading comprehension, please. That or stop moving the goalposts

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Post by throwway120385 »

eddiecalzone wrote: post #535
ciabattabread wrote: post #447

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It took the 2020 pandemic for Republicans to finally get on board and pass the Postal Service Reform Act of 2022.

Postmaster Dejoy began dismantling critical sorting machines, reducing and limiting overtime, &c only 6 months into lockdown, well before there was a COVID vaccine. Knowing full well the problems it would cause. For example, many remote rural addresses are only serviced by USPS, and people rely on it for timely prescriptions. IMO it was massive public outcry that prevented a great deal more destruction. https://www.v…

In Washington we were giving each other the advice to use ballot dropoff boxes because the postal service had disassembled half of their sorting machines in the month or two leading up to the November election and we were all concerned that mailing the ballots would have led to postmark dates after election day.

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Post by froggit »

reaperman wrote: post #554
Fogest wrote: post #471

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One of the big problems I find in the shipping industry is the reliance on insurance. The idea that most packages are insured or easily replaceable. When I was a bit younger and doing some seasonal postal work in a processing plant this was the mentality. The mentality being that sometimes things will go wrong and ruin a package, but hey, whatever. Machines would sometimes destroy a package, packages would get thrown…

> It'd be interesting to see a competitor that made it their goal to handle packages with more care There are "personal courier services" or "white glove courier services" where you hire a specific person to move your package from point A to point B. They stay with your package the whole time, and either carry it on a plane or drive it themselves. It's expensive, obviously, but the service does exist. Just like you,…

Pharmacies use this type of personal courier service to deliver medicine filled in the store to a patient's home (since shipping prescription drugs FedEx is a great way for grandpa to run out of heart medicine). This service is often provided free of charge so it's worth checking out.

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Post by prawn »

Kirby64 wrote: post #390
Rudism wrote: post #245

A while ago my wife applied for a home equity loan. At some point I got a call from someone claiming to be from the bank she had applied through (I forget which one), calling to make sure I approved the loan since the home is in both our names. He asked for my name, which I gave him, and then the last four digits of my social security number, which I also gave him. He then proceeded to ask for my full social security…

Similar story, I transferred a decent amount of money from one bank account to another (different bank). I thought nothing of it, but I got a call randomly from what appeared to be the receiving bank's 'fraud' phone number (based on Google). I picked up, and the person on the end had an extremely thick accent similar to scam callers. He started asking me if I had made a transaction recently (I said yes), then asked m…

I feel for legit employees with strong accents. In an era of getting 5-10 calls a day from OS scammers, I had a call from a woman with an accent about an invoice. I was curt and ended the call quickly. Turned out that her wording was just ambiguous and she was trying to pay my invoice to her employer's company.

Re: Thanks FedEx, this is why we keep getting phished

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Post by Kirby64 »

prawn wrote: post #566
Kirby64 wrote: post #390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similar story, I transferred a decent amount of money from one bank account to another (different bank). I thought nothing of it, but I got a call randomly from what appeared to be the receiving bank's 'fraud' phone number (based on Google). I picked up, and the person on the end had an extremely thick accent similar to scam callers. He started asking me if I had made a transaction recently (I said yes), then asked m…

I feel for legit employees with strong accents. In an era of getting 5-10 calls a day from OS scammers, I had a call from a woman with an accent about an invoice. I was curt and ended the call quickly. Turned out that her wording was just ambiguous and she was trying to pay my invoice to her employer's company.

Language barrier or whatnot is one thing, but I was having issues with the methodology of it. I’d have had similar levels of concern (perhaps less suspicion) if it was someone who spoke English fluently with no accent. There’s absolutely no reason they needed to confirm information from me to make a transaction between two bank accounts I own!

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Post by qingcharles »

habosa wrote: post #219

FedEx may have the worst and least secure digital platform for a major company. Some examples I’ve noticed: 1. I moved into a 10-unit apartment building and wanted to set up FedEx Delivery Manager. I just put in my new address, no verification whatsoever, and I was immediately given access to the previous tenant’s delivery instructions which included the buildings private garage code. Any thief could have done the sa…

They're an amateur company. They claimed three times to have tried to deliver a package to me last year even though they never even came down my street one time.

The package got returned to the sender who wouldn't respond. When I quibbled with my credit card company (Cash App) they said the package had been delivered to the sender, so it was technically "delivered" and I was not eligible for a refund. When I persisted they permanently terminated my account with them so I can never have another Cash App account, thanks to FedEx.

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