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Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by dewey »

azinman2 wrote: post #548
dewey wrote: post #79

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This really is one of these things where every employee in a cheap cost of living area will say "Exactly, man!" and people in an expensive area will see it differently because it might cap them lower than what they could get. I always find that a very naive point of view, of course I would want to earn a US tech salary while living somewhere in the country side, who wouldn't. But I'm also aware that this is not how t…

> of course I would want to earn a US tech salary while living somewhere in the country side, who wouldn't I wouldn’t. I like cities and center of culture and human activity. And the stats generally show cities growing globally, so I’m not the only one.

Replace "somewhere in the country side" with "some other place where the cost of living is lower than the highest one in the country" if it makes you happier.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by throw-DO-178C »

throw-DO-178C wrote: post #362
steveklabnik wrote: post #337

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Humility is a debugger, not a code coverage tool.

HUMILITY 1. The state or quality of being humble; freedom from pride and arrogance; lowliness of mind; a modest estimate of one's own worth; a sense of one's own unworthiness through imperfection and sinfulness; self-abasement; humbleness. -- Webster's 1918 Dictionary Our avionics software was originally spec-ed to not NEED a debugger it was to be of such high quality, but the designer added break point op-codes in t…

> Like humor, humility seems to be in short supply these days.

Hmm...maybe I should have referenced:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_cow_(idiom)

> The motto of the satirical magazine The Realist was "Irreverence is our only sacred cow".

Humor does seem to exist today, it just has a narrow band-pass filter, with apparent focus on "organic" product marketing.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by osti »

wmf wrote: post #483
flumpcakes wrote: post #201

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Oxide racks curren use AMD CPUs and and after buying Pensando AMD now offer P4 DPUs. I would hazard a complete guess and say maybe a move from Tofino to Pensando is on the cards for future networking revisions.

DPUs can't really replace switches. Maybe they could just keep using Tofino for the next N years until something better comes along.

It kind of can if you want to add programmability to your switches. So on top of traditional switches, you can add a cluster of DPUs in order to add networking functionalities to your switches. Microsoft has done just that. https://www.usenix.org/system/files/nsdi23-bansal.pdf

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by LoganDark »

ranger207 wrote: post #303
behnamoh wrote: post #286

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On a side note, I really liked their website. The ASCII animations are interesting -- wish there was a video game that had those.

Cogmind ( https://www.gridsagegames.com/cogmind/ ) has those sorts of animations

Woah , definitely going on my wishlist

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by jjav »

ollybee wrote: post #208
fefe23 wrote: post #11

This is actually a pretty big deal. They sell servers, but as a finished product. Not as a cobbled together mess of third party stuff where the vendor keeps shrugging if there is an integration problem. They integrated it. It comes with all the features they expect you to want if you wanted to build your own cloud. Also, they wrote the software. And it's all open source. So no "sorry but the third party vendor droppe…

Existing vendors will provide rack integration services and deliver a turn key solution like this. Also vendors of virtualization management software have partnerships with hardware suppliers and be happy to deliver fully integrated solutions if you're buying by the rack. The difference is in those cases you have flexibility in the design which seems to be missing here. Proxmox and a full rack of Supermicro gear woul…

> Existing vendors will provide rack integration services and deliver a turn key solution like this.

My experience with the likes of Dell is that they'll deliver it but they won't support it.

Sure, there's a support contract. And they try. But while they sell a box that says Dell, the innards are a hodgepodge of stuff from other places. So when certain firmware doesn't work with something else, they actually can't help because they don't own it, they're just a reseller.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

slibhb wrote: post #550
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #496

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> And remember, rankings don't have to be perfect, they just have to more accurate that random. No, they have to better than both random and "everyone is, on average, and over an extended period of time contributing roughly the same". That's quite a challenge. Do you go to customers and ask them which features provide the most value to them, and then follow the code back to the people who implemented them? Do you go…

> No, they have to better than both random and "everyone is, on average, and over an extended period of time contributing roughly the same". That's quite a challenge. This is something virtually all functional companies do when they decide raises. The fact that they don't do it perfectly isn't a huge problem, they just need to be more right than wrong. > Do you go to customers and ask them which features provide the…

The 2nd and 3rd questions you pose are all about sales.

If your company brings in $10M a year, and somebody plans to quit (or has quit), how much will your sales drop (immediately, and over a period of time). That's the answer to how much you can afford to offer them to stay, and that's how much you should offer their replacement. Suppose that says drop by $1M and you can be satisfied that the drop is 100% a consequence of the departed (or soon to depart) developer - that's how much value they bring to the company, and by the logic of capitalism (which I don't play by, btw), you should pay them some amount less than that.

The problem is: you can't determine the value before they quit, and you can't be sure that their replacement will provide that value after they are hired.

Look, I understand that in an organization of any size, there are likely to be slackers that feel like a deadweight, and others who feel like the contribute far more than the average.

The question is: does tying salary to this perception actually bring the benefits you think it does (which are intimately connected to the notion of incentive) ? There's some good evidence that for developers and other "head-based" employees, it does not, and that flat pay scales create an environment in which you get different kinds of benefits.

I've worked exclusively in a distributed FLOSS project for the last quarter century, so in many respects, I'm not well positioned to talk about what happens inside traditional corporations.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by throw0101c »

jjav wrote: post #544
yencabulator wrote: post #505

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It'll become customer facing the moment something doesn't work right.

When Apple supports OSX for consumers, they don't exactly surface the fact that there's BSD semi-hidden in there somewhere. That's because they own the whole stack, from CPU to GUI and support it as a unit. That's the benefit of having a product where a single owner builds and supports it as a whole. My impression of Oxide is that that's the level of single source of truth they are bringing to enterprise in-house clo…

> When Apple supports OSX for consumers, they don't exactly surface the fact that there's BSD semi-hidden in there somewhere.

Or Linux running underneath all the Java-y Android stuff.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by jatins »

loeg wrote: post #425
jatins wrote: post #421

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That's just base salary. For Staff+ engineers making 600-700k at BigTech, it is probably still a block. But for senior engineers at these companies, 200k is pretty competitive with the base salaries offered at those places

I don't understand why you would compare total compensation at Oxide with base salary at other employers? Total compensation is the relevant figure across the board, and senior (as in, experienced, not some specific levels.fyi tier) engineers often make significantly more than $201,000.

> That's just base salary

I meant 200k is just base salary at Oxide. It does not include equity

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Post by pighive »

steveklabnik wrote: post #509
cryptonector wrote: post #500

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That's probably [EDIT: decidedly] on the low side for the bay area for rock star devs, and Oxide has lots of rock star devs. I haven't looked but I assume they pay bonuses, probably differential bonuses.

We are not paid bonuses. We do receive stock. I took a base-pay cut to work at Oxide. Zero regrets.

Hi Steve, bit of a tangent, I stumbled upon your blog from intro section and went down the rabbit hole. Wanted to ask if you have any recommendations on documentaries. TIA!
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