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Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Its getting worse everywhere: some things I've noticed: Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search (Particularly for locations which open in apple maps) Although I'm mostly linux these days I went to install an alternative browser on a windows machine (using edge to download). I mentioned this in another post, but edge seems to watch for "chrome" or "firefox" downloads and politely remin…

Capitalism has stages.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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> I've never had to do that. Using OKD (OpenShift Kubernetes Distribution) because I just dealt with this morning: https://github.com/okd-project/okd/releases - download the MacOS installer and unzip it. Then try to run it from the command line. Be told that it "cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified". This is NOT the "is an app downloaded from the Internet, do you wish to run it?" dialog. Go to Fi…

> Then try to run it from the command line. Be told that it "cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified". This is NOT the "is an app downloaded from the Internet, do you wish to run it?" dialog. Yes, you get the “developer cannot be verified” error if the code isn’t signed. Which is perfectly fine, I don’t see how this is anti-consumer. It’s $99 for a code signing cert (per developer account) on macOS/…

Yes, but the dialog doesn't tell you what to do if you do want to run the code. Why would I think that clicking "Open" in the popup menu would do anything different from double-clicking?

Also, an individual Microsoft Store cert is $19 (one-time, not per year), and a company account is $99.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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RedHat also has been declared isn’t all that great recently. Looks like only decent operating system remains is MacOS, others are highly specialised, like BSD, box of unfinished toys like most of Linux distros, betas as Windows 11 or ads and spyware infested services upsell platform: android, windows again, redhat and ubutu..

Parent comment mentioned two great disrros, Fedora and Debian to which I like to add Arch. They certainly are not unfinished toys.

Arch is great until the grub developers push a release without testing and it breaks your whole system (speaking from experience).

If NixOS didn't exist, I'd use Fedora as the RPM repositories aren't hot garbage like the AUR.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Glad I uninstalled Windows and use Ubuntu on all my computers

That was great, until Ubuntu introduced snaps for everything, to the point where `apt install` started installing snaps. The ads for Ubuntu Pro every time I open a terminal or update my computer aren't very welcoming either. If Ubuntu had a browser of their own, it would be as worse as Windows.

Never thought I'd see the day where a popular Linux distro would advertize me its pro version.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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One nice thing HN has taught me is that I should be wary of anti-Apple claims like this. Inevitably someone comes along to add context or explain what's actually going on, and 9 times out of 10 it turns out that Apple's solution wasn't unreasonable at all. Which isn't to say that things like the 30% app store cut is entirely defensible, though you can certainly make some halfway plausible claims in that direction (ba…

You can always find a reason to defend any feature. In the case of this article you could say it's more seamless to open Outlook links in their browser. And that's exactly what Microsoft's PR says. But for some reason Apple's fans are way more insistent in defending everything and sticking to the PR department's arguments. No criticism is allowed to stand.

I find that more often than not, the anti-fans are more strident these days than the fans are. What I like is that there are some knowledgeable fans here on HN that don't just retort with "nuh-uh!" whenever a critic levels some sort of unfounded conspiracy theory at Apple, but actually explain what is going on. They provide context, documentation, and important details that seem to get lost when the only discussion is emotional.

HN isn't perfect, but it's so much better than a lot of other online discussion forums these days.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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> Battery throtteling on the iPhone 6s This is one of the ways I can tell what preconceived opinion someone has. The only problem with the battery throttling was PR. The engineering solution was correct and objectively better than not throttling. Should they have told users their battery was failing? Sure. But keeping the phone from crashing was better than letting it. > unauthorized Apps on MacOS must be opened with…

> I've never had to do that. Using OKD (OpenShift Kubernetes Distribution) because I just dealt with this morning: https://github.com/okd-project/okd/releases - download the MacOS installer and unzip it. Then try to run it from the command line. Be told that it "cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified". This is NOT the "is an app downloaded from the Internet, do you wish to run it?" dialog. Go to Fi…

Interesting, thanks for the link. I've never run into that before. I've downloaded a lot of software, much of it open source. I've only downloaded from the Mac App Store maybe twice ever. But this is the first time I've gotten completely denied. Is it because it was a zip file with an executable inside, rather than an installer? Or as someone else mentioned, because it isn't signed at all? Are all the open source projects paying for signing certs for their OSX installer packages?

Again, thanks for the link. That's probably the only time I'll run into that, it clearly isn't my usual use case, but I'm glad you could back up the assertion with something I could see for myself.

I do agree that it should be clearer how you can run the executable if you really do trust it.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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I'm using Thunderbird on Linux with an Outlook work account. Granted, I have to pay for 'Owl for Exchange' for it work, but I absolutely hate the Outlook program, I'm willing to fork out the $10/yr of my own money just to avoid it.

If you still have IMAP access, thunderbird supports OAuth2 for connecting to O365 IMAP. tbsync for calendar access. Seems to work pretty well currently.

That is my setup. Works 100%.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Its getting worse everywhere: some things I've noticed: Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search (Particularly for locations which open in apple maps) Although I'm mostly linux these days I went to install an alternative browser on a windows machine (using edge to download). I mentioned this in another post, but edge seems to watch for "chrome" or "firefox" downloads and politely remin…

> 'with added "trust of microsoft"' To be fair, you trust Microsoft to be your OS. Installing another browser means that there are now two parties that could be malicious or hacked (distribute a compromised update) rather than one. FWIW, I run Firefox on Debian Linux and an open source browser on Android as well (so no Safari hijacking going on either), but I can see valid logic in their statement ...even if they mig…

>To be fair, you trust Microsoft to be your OS

Exactly. If you don't trust Microsoft with your confidential data, and to supply you the best browser, then why are you using their OS?

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Device design is always constrained by the current technology. It isn't impossible to make a phone with current battery tech that doesn't overheat after a year or two of normal use Apple just pushed design to far and underestimated the cooling/heat dissipation required

You keep mentioning cooling / heat - this is the first I’ve ever heard of this in relation to batterygate, and in fact the first I’ve ever heard of any battery “overheating” (generating more heat?) as a result of a normal ageing process - where are you getting this from?

My understanding was that the concerns were related to degraded batteries having a lower voltage potential.

The hardware and software were shipped with performance optimized to the initial voltage curves of the battery. Once that voltage curve decreases slightly the device will either reboot when the processor attempts to run at a higher clock speed than the battery voltage can support, or the battery can technically keep up though begin to overheat as the operating voltage is a higher draw than the battery can safely handle.

Dont get me wrong I'm not aware of any concerns over the phone actuary catching fire like that one generation of Samsung years ago, but the degraded battery would either lead to reboots or excess heat.

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