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Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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Re: Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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This seems like stuff that should never be privatized or under non-police control. Police hires company to tow stuff away sure, but not "some random bumblefuck have right to do the police's job of "law enforcement"

With police already understaffed as they are, how would they enforce a bunch of students parking illegally next to campus and blocking traffic?

Do you understand what you are writing?

"We don't have staff so let's pay some other company to lend us staff to do it, for more money that would cost to hire the staff (because their boss needs to earn the living too)"

Re: Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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post #430

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This seems like stuff that should never be privatized or under non-police control. Police hires company to tow stuff away sure, but not "some random bumblefuck have right to do the police's job of "law enforcement"

I live in a neighborhood with impacted parking that’s poorly served by the local government. People keep parking in front of my driveway and blocking me in. If I call the cops they ignore me. If I call the tow company they come and tow away the offending car. Is this bad? Suppose someone decided my front yard is a good place to store their belongings and dropped a shed there. Should I be able to hire movers to dispos…

> If I call the cops they ignore me. If I call the tow company they come and tow away the offending car. Is this bad?

Yes. Here in Poland they'd get ticketed at the very least. It's easy money for them, pads their stats, and actually helps people. If it is somewhere where it blocks traffic (whether to house, pedestrians or otherwise) it would most likely also be towed. The company is contracted by city but they just do the towing, not law enforcement.

Re: Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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post #549

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Take out the SIM from the car's network interface module and put it in a phone/modem. If they're restricting by IMEI you may need to spoof that.

Do we think ford even bother with SIM cards? Lots of modern 5G devices have e-sims etc, much easier for the factory floor if SIM card can be loaded via software too. None of my families cellphones have physical sims anymore either.

In this case, take the modem chip itself. Most off-the-shelf USB/Mini-PCIe/etc modem cards use the same underlying chips, so you can just move the chip over which would contain both the eSIM as well as the original IMEI.

Re: Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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How would that work?

Take out the SIM from the car's network interface module and put it in a phone/modem. If they're restricting by IMEI you may need to spoof that.

You're assuming that the traffic sent is free to be whatever. I could easily see telcos restricting this "5G for IoT" stuff to be just traffic to designated servers, with the more permissive hotspot use a separate extra service -- at which point, you're paying for it regardless of this hack.

Re: Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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post #549

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do we think ford even bother with SIM cards? Lots of modern 5G devices have e-sims etc, much easier for the factory floor if SIM card can be loaded via software too. None of my families cellphones have physical sims anymore either.

In this case, take the modem chip itself. Most off-the-shelf USB/Mini-PCIe/etc modem cards use the same underlying chips, so you can just move the chip over which would contain both the eSIM as well as the original IMEI.

> you can just move the chip over

I can't help but chuckle at the use of the word "just" here. Sure, if we are now into reverse engineering hardware module interfaces and potentially desolder jobs on a (at a minimum) ~$20k vehicle, of which many features will stop working once you remove the module as well as triggering how many warning and service lights...

Re: Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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Aren't you already not in control of where you go on foot? We have plenty of restricted areas for everything from anti-terrorism, govt buildings, and private property. There's even private roads for driving - this doesn't really change the laws it just makes enforcement easier. My hope is that we can automate enforcement of stuff like speeding tickets, and then people would get upset and we'd either raise the speed l…

If that’s “not in control of where you go” then it is an entirely different sense. By that reasoning our movement is out of our control because we are physically incapable of walking away into the sky. And because it’s neither physically possible nor allowed to drive everywhere. The analog to what I’m saying would be something like disabling your legs and asking for permission to walk on a public sidewalk.

A car isn't analogous to legs though, that would be the closest analogy with respect to the rights we have. You're always allowed to lose a license, nobody has any right to drive a car, so the concern is where you're allowed to go _given_ your mode of transportation - and any mode can be restricted based on current laws

You can lose your license and not be allowed to drive anywhere, but you can still walk around - that's the whole rights VS privilege thing

Re: Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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Weird to me it’s being read as sanctimony. My intent was just to convey “I was a driver for 22 years I am allowed to say we are entitled behind the wheel.” Maybe people feel guilty about owning cars so it rubbed them wrong? Some people have to, I’m lucky enough to not. I don’t think I’m better, just emotionally liberated. It’s an amazing feeling to have the privilege of not having to drive or park, get psychotically…

For many of us, including myself, such a "luxury" is not practical: 1. I like the outdoors and they don't put bus lines 200 miles from the nearest gas station. 2. Work is often further than walking or biking distance. 3. I need to haul more than a few days worth of groceries. Or a larger item. I think what people are getting upset at is you are conflating not driving with some higher form of intellect when in reality…

>I think what people are getting upset at is you are conflating not driving with some higher form of intellect

But that’s them presuming, I neither meant nor actually said that and I explained my intent above. It’s a mistake on their part. That fine, that’s life, but says more about them than me.

>when in reality it's a privilege really only afforded to people who live in often high cost of living areas.

Totally, that’s why I called it a privilege myself in the comment you’re replying to. People seem to have layered a stereotype onto me because I said I was a former car owner. It’s like saying you don’t own a television-maybe it’s often said in arrogance but sometimes you actually have a good reason to mention it.

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