https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/11/opinion/workplace-diversi...
Is it any surprise that contrived struggle sessions and compelled behavioral modification seminars aren't helpful?
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/11/opinion/workplace-diversi...
Is it any surprise that contrived struggle sessions and compelled behavioral modification seminars aren't helpful?
How do we improve natural diversity? Through persuasion, not coercion. That means, first and foremost, improving education for people and instilling the right cultural values so that they have the right skills and qualifications. When we have diverse people with the right skills, diverse workforces occur naturally in a free market system.
Finally, people who think America has a huge racism problem should travel across the world now and also read history better. America is one of the least racist places overall in recorded history. It's something we can always improve on, bu, at this point it's just another problem among many, and our overemphasis on it is also causing far more problems than helping people.
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Sure. Which would require a specialized group of trained people at the company. This would involve such things as changing Alma Mater University to "completed degree". It would involve fudging things such as how long it took to graduate (which can be an indicator of familial status, in so far as people from poorer backgrounds are disproportionately likely to take longer to complete due to financial reasons). Genuinel…
Both of the things you listed are as simple as text replacement.
This is not as easy a task as a simple text replacement.
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> Hmm... this sounds an awful lot like, "because you're responding to a comment made by a black person, the only acceptable response is one of total agreement". Not true. There is another acceptable response - not posting, taking some time to read and reflect, and moving along with your day. You no doubt have any number of other things you could be doing, but you’re in here. Might be worth thinking about why that is.
> You no doubt have any number of other things you could be doing, but you’re in here. Might be worth thinking about why that is. Obviously this applies to you as well. Maybe you've taken what I wrote as some sort of disagreement or getting defensive or... something? And then from there concluding that I shouldn't be allowed to participate? I'm not sure, but this is a discussion site and I'm participating in the disc…
You're allowed to participate, but I trust you can understand that in many situations there is a difference between what discourse is permitted in a space, and what discourse others might see as appropriate or a value add to the discussion.
> I'm not sure, but this is a discussion site and I'm participating in the discussion, and please don't take this the wrong way, but it's really not your place to tell me that I shouldn't participate.
Hmm, it is your place to be able to post whatever you like as long as it's permitted by the rules, but it's not the place of others to suggest doing so might not be appropriate, even if that is also permitted. Kind of a narcissistic, authoritarian mindset, it seems to me. Note that I didn't post "mods???" or report you.
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Both of the things you listed are as simple as text replacement.
And how do you replace this text without losing important, non-origin context? What you probably need is an entire re-write. But a re-write, or even a bad text replacement, can make it look like the applicant is better or worse at grammar or writing in general. This is not as easy a task as a simple text replacement.
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Thomas Sowell pointed out two problems with the "idea" in Discrimination and Disparities . First, what evidence do we have that diversity does result in a company performing better, or gaining that amazing employee? He argues that this is an unfounded assumption. Setting that aside, his second point requires deeper consideration. Disparities are often caused by upstream circumstances, like fewer children having adult…
> First, what evidence do we have that diversity does result in a company performing better, or gaining that amazing employee? He argues that this is an unfounded assumption. It's not an assumption. > Along all dimensions measured, the more similar the investment partners, the lower their investments’ performance. For example, the success rate of acquisitions and IPOs was 11.5% lower, on average, for investments by p…
I'm not bitter anymore though. I now work at a hedge fund, they pay cash, and they pay more than FAANG/Unicorns.
And lots of layoffs are happening in FAANG/Unicorns, especially the DEI. Meanwhile I just got a raise.
So, they (the DEI companies and the DEI hires) got what they deserve. I felt vindicated. There is justice after all in this world.
Sorry not sorry. I'm out. No, no one's gonna change my opinion. Save your breath.
Heh, I feel the same way towards DEI: I'm from Brazil and this stupid DEI stuff keeps putting me in the "LatinX" bucket. I freaking hate that. I'm not a freaking latino. That is a dumb denomination created by the US. Yet I keep getting invited for dumb LatinX events as if that means anything. I want to be recognized by the stack of excellent work I've done. Not because I happen to be from a part of the world that is…
I heard a very humorous and apt anecdote that there are no black people in Africa - maybe the same phenomenon is happening here, where the identity you have in Brazil (just a Brazilian) is different from the identity you are ascribed in the US (namely 'Latino/Latina')
It's a problem. In our town people went past "Black Lives Matter" to a lot of cheap pandering to the effect that "Black people are awesome" and maybe all of them are right out of Wakanda Forever. It comes across as not based in reality, not really sincere, and not really attending to black people in the community. I voted an Alumni Trustee ballot on the weekend and there were two black people on the ballot. One was a…
This phrasing suggests an base expectation that a black person needs to prove they could get it done [like a white person could].
What I think DEI tries[1] to do is normalize the idea that anyone of sufficient ability /can/ do the work by giving more opportunity to people who 'traditionally' have not received those opportunities. And in so doing, remove the [often] unconscious perception that says a black person needs to 'prove' something extra in the first place
[1] at its best, which it often isn't.
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The key thing is there needs to be a falsifiable condition whereby we agree these programs have achieved their primary goal, and that the risk of scope creep, corruption, or other externalities like the ones the OP mentions has exceeded the potential further benefits, so they should be wound down. I'm not going to state my opinion here, but if such a condition is not identified in any way, we should assume these grou…
The falsifiable condition is that the underlying social attitudes driving the racism/sexism/etc have dissolved. Problem is, this is a social process that takes centuries to complete. You are never going to hit a point in a single institution where you can say "We fixed our diversity problem, let's go home", because it can just come back as you hire more people and older hires leave. Furthermore, society is frustratin…