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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by idlewords »

There's two distinct issues here; one is the content of the rule (that many people have already posted smart things about), and the other is Twitter's new system of governance via Calvinball, where rules are made up on the fly and are often at odds with the basic culture of the site (for example, the sudden prohibition on sharing location info).

It doesn't help that the rules are capriciously enforced. The situation will probably continue until Musk finds a new squirrel to chase up a different tree and Twitter gets an adult caretaker. Jeff Bezos could do public discourse a real solid here by proclaiming he's just about ready to fly to Mars.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by cpsns »

guerrilla wrote: post #324
drdaeman wrote: post #170

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Honestly, this. I wasn't expecting much but was hoping that at least Elon has some unorthodox idea to try. What he promised wasn't supposed to work, but no matter who he is and what he believes in, I had to give him some respect - dude had actually put his money (lawsuit or not) where his mouth was, and that's a commendable thing. Except that... I really don't like roasting people - that's just faux pas, so I'll rath…

> dude had actually put his money (lawsuit or not) where his mouth was, and that's a commendable thing. No he didn't. He was forced to.

Somehow people are still trying to convince themselves Musk is a good, virtuous guy. It probably has a lot to do with them not being able to admit they were wrong, or that they bought his PR bullshit.

The reality is he's an awful person who in this case is the proverbial dog that caught the car.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by Yoric »

scythe wrote: post #260
tlogan wrote: post #117

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I genuinely believed that he would try to allow more free speech on Twitter. There was a small chance that the experiment will succeed. I guess he never wanted that: he just lied. But why?

The only remotely plausible explanation that isn't plain narcissism on Elon's part is the hypothesis I found on Matt Levine's blog (which he credited to someone I forget): Elon, by positioning himself as a conservative, hopes to convince Republicans to buy Teslas (and his other products). There are a variety of problems with that approach — not least that he'd be aiming for the primary targets of oil company propagan…

Alternative possibility (which, to clarify, is just a random idea of mine, not even a hunch): he sees himself as some sort of political figure, either as a candidate or as a kingmaker – just the position that, if I understand correctly, Trump has lost a few weeks ago.

For that kind of use, owning Tweeter, with absolute control on content and a user base stoked up on anger against "the Libs", "the pedophiles", "the establishment", "the deep state", etc. would be invaluable.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by ceejayoz »

photochemsyn wrote: post #194

I never understood the "public square" argument that so many people made about the role of Twitter or other social media platforms. They're really just private courtyards where permission to pass is controlled by the owner of the courtyard, within the constraints set out in the legal system on discrimination (i.e. the same as for restaurants, movie theaters, etc.). Here's the underlying legal basis of protected free…

> However, that seems to raise an issue with the FBI - a government agency - directing a private entity to ban speech from persons they wish to silence, doesn't it?

Do let us know when it happens.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by BryantD »

haxiomic wrote: post #84

Let’s help people get off this ship Tools to migrate to mastodon: Archive your data and repost to mastodon: https://twitter.com/settings/download_your_data https://github.com/FGRibreau/import-tweets-to-mastodon Find accounts you follow on mastodon: Browser Extension - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/mastodon-handles-i... Using API - https://debirdify.pruvisto.org/ (thanks @guerrilla) - https://www.movetodon…

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Easy tool for making your own linktree clone: https://glitch.com/glitch-in-bio

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by 323 »

jacquesm wrote: post #183
legutierr wrote: post #131

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Nostr is perhaps the most interesting of the list. Fully decentralized; messages are cryptographically signed; users are identified by their private keys; following is done on the client side, with no stateful server-side component; messages broadcast via stateless relays. https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr https://github.com/aljazceru/awesome-nostr Overall design seems very simple. It feels a bit like email, in…

Very interesting, thank you. To what degree is it decentralized?

Recommended by Jack too:

https://nitter.it/jack/status/1603945963944480768

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by wombatpm »

tompagenet2 wrote: post #184
tlogan wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I genuinely believed that he would try to allow more free speech on Twitter. There was a small chance that the experiment will succeed. I guess he never wanted that: he just lied. But why?

Because he's always been an insecure child, who says what he thinks will make him popular or stand out to a group of acolytes. Sometimes that'll work for a while, sometimes it'll really help, but over time you get more cocksure, more convinced of your own greatness and more foolish.

My wife always thought him to be a jerk. I thought he was a visionary. Twitter has proven my wife was correct

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by red_trumpet »

idlewords wrote: post #561

There's two distinct issues here; one is the content of the rule (that many people have already posted smart things about), and the other is Twitter's new system of governance via Calvinball, where rules are made up on the fly and are often at odds with the basic culture of the site (for example, the sudden prohibition on sharing location info). It doesn't help that the rules are capriciously enforced. The situation…

Don't forget that recent rules (like this one, or the one about live tracking people's location) seem to be made to retroactively justify previous moderation actions.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by sarlalian »

est31 wrote: post #108

When MS bought github many people moved to gitlab and started to advertise their gitlab IDs. I too put my gitlab in there. But ultimately, gitlab didn't catch on on a permanent basis: most devs still are on github, thanks to network effects. People removed their gitlab mentions. I feel the same with the "find me on mastodon" twitter bios: people will realize that only 50 of their thousands of followers can be found o…

It will certainly vary by Twitter community, but I'll say that the infosec community on Twitter has certainly either moved to Mastodon exclusively, or is posting primarily on Mastodon and cross posting to Twitter. Additionally I'm seeing more and more of writer Twitter move to Mastodon, including several large authors leaving Twitter entirely. I expect that politicians in many forms will be the last to move, but journalists are likely to have to leave Twitter entirely given Elon's current anti-journalist tendencies.

I'm old enough to have seen the "end" of Myspace before... and kinda like is happening with Twitter now, it started with a little bit at a time, then all at once almost everyone was gone.

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