How quickly could a Tesla engineer get up to speed on Twitter’s code in order to make any kind of useful conclusions?
Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said
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#562I don’t quite understand why everyone here is so defensive about what seems like a pretty common practice in a takeover.
Do all developers have equal skill and productivity?
Should developers pulling down FAANG-like salaries be given infinite slack? “Oh I see you’ve only attended meetings and haven’t written a line of code for a month. I’m so glad the company I invested $44B into is paying you $50K a month!”
It’s not uncommon in the wider industry to have to re-apply for your own job.
People fail and aren’t rehired because all too often they weren’t actually that productive.
That could be their own fault, or the organisation’s fault for over hiring.
Either way, they’re dead weight and the only way to profitability is to make them redundant.
It’s tough, but this is what capitalism is all about! Work is not a charity…
Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said
#563I think people are looking at this the wrong way. It's not so much about the code as it is about establishing an authority. Musk takeover is often regarded as banditry and I wouldn't be surprised if the employees didn't take him seriously in the beginning. This is his way of saying, "I don't trust you, I don't know what you have been up to but things are going to be different so better get used to it." Using Tesla en…
Seems like an extreme step if he feels after a few days he isn’t being taken seriously enough. That’s not a lot of time.
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#564Musk has extraordinary capability of extracting every bit of potential a person can deliver. Either you work crazy at your 200% or you are worthless and the company is not for you. Twitter will see lots of layoffs, massive restructuring - some unknown people being promoted for top roles, but end result will be better financial. I am not sure Twitter will remain the same as it is. Lots of people think Elon is not good…
>Musk has extraordinary capability of extracting every bit of potential a person can deliver. Either you work crazy at your 200% or you are worthless and the company is not for you.
You are simply paraphrasing exploitation.
>but if you see most of his businesses, his expertise is dealing with governments, contracts and policies makers
Looks more like brute force and public shaming to me.
Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said
#565I wonder if the claims of printed code are true.
Elon is definitely not a luddite when it comes to code, it seems like a very uncharacteristic request.
Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said
#566I think people are looking at this the wrong way. It's not so much about the code as it is about establishing an authority. Musk takeover is often regarded as banditry and I wouldn't be surprised if the employees didn't take him seriously in the beginning. This is his way of saying, "I don't trust you, I don't know what you have been up to but things are going to be different so better get used to it." Using Tesla en…
Why would anyone take him seriously when he is making a massive embarrassment of himself on his first day on the job (after doing the same for months leading up to the takeover?) Musk didn't know the bio of the CEO of the company he was buying (who was also former CTO, engineer, Stanford PhD (thesis topic: making decisions under uncertainty), IPhO gold medalist, top tier Indian tech student) and called him a non-tech…
Why would anyone take him seriously?
Well, maybe because he’s the richest man in the world? Or maybe because he’s the CEO of several of the most valuable public or private companies in the world? Maybe because he practically single handedly willed the electric car industry into existence? Or maybe because he’s revolutionized the rocket industry? Or…or…or…
Elon hasn’t whiffed on any business venture in decades. Nothing but net.
But you wouldn’t think that listening to all the “I am very smart” people on this forum. This guy, one of the most successful people in all of human history, is apparently an idiot and no one should take him seriously. He will surely run Twitter into the ground because… because… because reasons.
These takes are outright comedy. Fine if you don’t like the guy, I surely don’t, but good grief you’d think he was pissing into bottles like Howard Hughes.
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#567The most bizarre aspect of this was when Twitter engineers were told to print out their code on paper.
There is literally no good reason to do that. At best it is staggering incompetence. At worst it is an intentionally pointless and expensive exercise that serves purely as a loyalty test.
Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said
#568Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would anyone take him seriously when he is making a massive embarrassment of himself on his first day on the job (after doing the same for months leading up to the takeover?) Musk didn't know the bio of the CEO of the company he was buying (who was also former CTO, engineer, Stanford PhD (thesis topic: making decisions under uncertainty), IPhO gold medalist, top tier Indian tech student) and called him a non-tech…
Why does Twitter need to end? Have you before and do you currently use Twitter? I've met and talked to a great deal of cool people on there, such as a lot of prominent people in the web dev space, as well as scientists in various fields. Twitter is just a social network, it can be used for good or for bad, based on who one follows. That people think it needs to end for whatever reason (or maybe they're only used to t…
> Why does Twitter need to end?
I use Twitter and I think it needs to end - at least in its current form. It has a very low signal-to-noise ratio and doesn't offer the users adequate control over what they see. As an example, you may not want to see (re)tweets on Baseball from the prominent Web Dev space folk you follow, or the off-topic comments by trolls in replies.
> Twitter is just a social network, it can be used for good or for bad, based on who one follows.
...and the people that interact with them. There need to be more receiver-side controls. Blocking tweets by words is a first step, they should have opt-in filter by subject and raise the bar on replies that ride the coat-tails of authors authority.
Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said
#569Earlier quoted context omitted.
Respectfully, very little of this seems to be operating by standard procedure. Have you seen the incoming CEO ask people to bring printouts of their code, ever?
Musk is reportedly looking to cut deadweight before Nov 1st when equity vests -- with layoffs possibly happening over the weekend. He might already have a basic idea of key teams and for non-key teams he might be looking to cut very fast. I absolutely have done things like this when acquiring companies - sat with people, asked them to basically interview for their own jobs while showing me the most important thing th…
>I absolutely have done things like this when acquiring companies - sat with people, asked them to basically interview for their own jobs while showing me the most important thing they wrote in the last quarter.
That a pretty bad method finding the bad apples, more of the opposite. Someone like Musk who claims to have Asperger's should know this.
Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said
#570The most bizarre aspect of this was when Twitter engineers were told to print out their code on paper. There is literally no good reason to do that. At best it is staggering incompetence. At worst it is an intentionally pointless and expensive exercise that serves purely as a loyalty test.
Nah paper is still more efficient than computers in quick meetings. You can imagine many seconds being wasted if they were on a laptop and the engineer needs to find his files.
Paper the UX is perfect and instant.