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Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volterra

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Re: Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volterra

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MacOS is great and all but no Ctrl + Alt + T for terminal, no deal.

There must be a way to set up a hotkey for this right?

Bettertouchtools and keyboard maestro.

Re: Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volterra

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Does Linux work on it? No, not yet. It may need some custom firmware like you see in the instructions for the Surface.

Support for the Qualcomm chip did land in v6.0 of the Kernel - https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/b6a6535b339776d32fa...

I just had mine arrive today, which I wanted to enroll as an ARM64 build agent (with Firecracker) for self-actuated ( https://docs.actuated.dev ) - this does actually work with Asahi Linux and the Mac Mini M1, but that was double the price for half the RAM.

So far, it's not looking good, with Ubuntu Server 22.04 and 22.10 both crashing after the Grub menu. I'm sharing progress here:

https://twitter.com/alexellisuk/status/1585562359254421504?s...

Re: Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volterra

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I have a macbook pro 16 (the last Intel one) and it has a claimed 10 hour battery life. I use it mostly for ms office (excel, PowerPoint, outlook) and have zoom/teams open in the background, as well as citirx for access to some Linux servers. I'm lucky to get an hour and a half. Fans running, etc. Window_server chwes up battery like no one's business. Nice hw is nice, but I'm very dissapointed at my first toe-dip int…

I’ve got a similar machine. The last 15” Intel. Honestly it’s kind of one of the worst. The 2010 was pretty great. If you ignore they keyboard issues (a BIG DEAL) they got better for a few years. In the last few years it became very clear Apple just couldn’t do what they wanted as the Intel chips kept getting hotter and more power hungry. I’m sorry you got that experience. It was and now is so much better. You kind o…

That's interesting, thanks. I would have assumed Window_server would be a common issue cpu on all platforms, is that not the case? If so do you know if disabling 3d acceleration could help etc?

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> but it just wasn't powerful enough. 4 GB of RAM and eMMC would never be comfortable for Windows development. I have a very small laptop like that and I'd never think of using it to do .NET development on it. OTOH, for Python-backed web apps and API-based services, it's quite sufficient.

That devkit wasn't intended to be a development but a testing device. But then they made a big mistake: putting Windows Home on it instead of Pro... so that it didn't have RDP...

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Where does it say Linux is officially supported?

The chip is having mainline Linux support merged with 5.20, according to Phoronix: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-5.20-SoCs-8cx-Gen3-Arm

I've tried it. It seems like even with a 6.0 Kernel, additional DTBs are required to boot.

https://twitter.com/alexellisuk/status/1585562359254421504?s...

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Electron is on the way out on Windows as they move to WebView2. https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webview...

I like the idea of WebView2, but it seems to be abandonware. They don't fix the most obvious bugs you run into immediately when trying it out. https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/WebView2Feedback/issues/229...

It's not abandonware... it's a core component to all of Microsofts desktop apps starting with the new Teams and Outlook.
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