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How can San Francisco be both the most progressive place in the US and the place with the most inequality? It's fascinating the things we can't talk about.
Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
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Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
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Walking around (nearly any part of) San Francisco day or night with a toddler is no problem at all, but don’t leave a backpack sitting on your car’s passenger seat if you don’t want your window smashed. The problem is property crimes not violent crime. One of the main issues is that the SF police are unwilling to lift a finger about nearly anything, and more or less laugh at you if you ask for their help.
> SF police are unwilling to lift a finger about nearly anything, and more or less laugh at you if you ask for their help That's rather uncharitable given the sheer volume of property crime facing the city. Literally hundreds of calls a day... while in 2020 the mayor bragged about cutting the police funding by $120 million and moving it to other organizations. It has since been restored (I think?). Even a B-corp with…
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NYC: > “Bragg said the office will stop prosecuting people for theft of services, trespassing (unless it accompanies a stalking charge), aggravated unlicensed operation, routine traffic violations not accompanied by felony charges, obstructing governmental administration, resisting arrest, and prostitution.“ https://gothamist.com/news/manhattan-da-bragg-tells-staff-st... The Manhattan DA subsequently claimed to roll…
The fact I learned about NYC fare evasion yesterday is that Andrew Cuomo's crackdown on fare evasion in 2019 cost more in police officer pay than was ever lost in fares. Not just more than was recovered by cracking down, literally more than was ever lost.
MTA is a public authority with a board controlled by the governor - the mayor of NYC has limited influence over the subways and bridges, but the NYPD (formerly transit police) are the main enforcement. There was an infamous rivalry between the two officials and sending in state police, etc was part of the show.
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#564Earlier quoted context omitted.
How can San Francisco be both the most progressive place in the US and the place with the most inequality? It's fascinating the things we can't talk about.
Education polarization. San Francisco is unequal because it has significant numbers of high income people. High income people have progressive political views.
So that's who the Party of the wealthy is..
Curious how often progressives are bleating on about "Eat The Rich" then isn't it?
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#565Earlier quoted context omitted.
Education polarization. San Francisco is unequal because it has significant numbers of high income people. High income people have progressive political views.
>High income people have progressive political views. So that's who the Party of the wealthy is.. Curious how often progressives are bleating on about "Eat The Rich" then isn't it?
Being in the upper quartile of the distribution yourself is no insurance against resenting those higher up.
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
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Cops are people. How well would you try to do your job after a few months of seeing your boss purposefully undo whatever work you did at the end of every day. How long would you keep actually coding if your boss just deleted all of your code every shift with no acknowledgment.
If my code was mostly harassing and extorting minorities and the the poor then I'd be glad my boss was deleting it and asking me to stop writing more of it. What kind of sociopath would get job satisfaction from felony marijuana busts or harassing queer people trying to have a drink at a bar when you could be going after bigger fish? Maybe the effective Altruism folk can do a law enforcement spin-off to grade the imp…
If in some wierdo universe where programmers had to stop hackers by busting down their door in the middle of the night to stop a hack, maybe programmers would be facing the same scrutiny.
Public: You're going after too many minorities!!!
You: I'm just trying to stop the hackers!!!!
Public: Defund the programmers!
You: Look we stopped 40 white hackers last month! We'll stop going after the others, we promise.
(then you just stop doing anything)
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#567Potentially bigger "rampant crime" issues:
- Corruption in SF municipal government
- Local power company keeps causing devastating fires, killing people. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/01/24/pge-should-be-b...
- There were more than 300 news stories about a single shoplifting incident last year, and comparatively little coverage about the chain's much larger wage-theft problem. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/07/want-t...
Similarly:
- it's socially acceptable for techies to consume some drugs while hanging out in Dolores park, where we can be heard complaining about the visible drug use in the tenderloin
- people have mostly given up caring that Uber, AirBnB grew with a playbook of entering markets and initially ignoring local laws.
- people care if their delivery is stolen, but a lot less if their tip to the delivery person is stolen. https://www.mselaborlaw.com/news/doordash-pay-25-million-tip...
- people care if their Amazon package is stolen, but less if Amazon steals from its delivery people. Again. https://paycheckcollector.com/amazon-wage-theft/ https://www.axios.com/local/seattle/2022/10/04/delivery-driv...
Yes, we are surrounded by and drowning in crime. No, it is not just bikes, packages and car break-ins.
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#568I had a car broken into this last weekend. They broke into every rental car in the lot (by the ferry building). A police officer was rolling through, telling people not to leave anything visible in their cars (nothing was visible in mine). I asked him if I could file a report, and he told me I would have to go to the station. He told me he wasn't sticking around and refused to take a report. I had a similar experienc…
> I had a dispatcher refuse to send an officer for a theft crew that I'd stopped in the middle of breaking into a car before they waved a gun at me and drove at me and my son over the sidewalk. That encounter with the thieves sounds awful, and then being unable to get police help sounds doubly awful. I hope your son wasn't traumatized by it. FWIW, not all cities are like that. The couple times someone pulled a gun on…
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#569This is totally a problem (I am in that half). But is it the important problem? Potentially bigger "rampant crime" issues: - Corruption in SF municipal government - Local power company keeps causing devastating fires, killing people. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/01/24/pge-should-be-b... - There were more than 300 news stories about a single shoplifting incident last year, and comparatively little coverage a…
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#570Earlier quoted context omitted.
>High income people have progressive political views. So that's who the Party of the wealthy is.. Curious how often progressives are bleating on about "Eat The Rich" then isn't it?
College educated workers are to the left of and also earn more than the median American. A region with a large professional-managerial workforce in addition to its working class is more unequal than a region with only working class people. Being in the upper quartile of the distribution yourself is no insurance against resenting those higher up.