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Post by ALittleLight »

TigeriusKirk wrote: post #504
ALittleLight wrote: post #423

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From this perspective - my intuition is that the likelihood a Kanye West led Parler will be successful is substantially greater than that a rap career will be successful. In some sense West is moving on to more plausible investments as he gets older. West has had success as an entertainer and as a businessman - I believe he has a successful shoe company. He's famous. If he thinks he can take on Parler, that seems lik…

I don't know if I think it's likely he can make a success out of Parler. That's a very tall order. But I definitely think he's got a better shot at it than whoever has run it to date.

Completely agree. Put another way, it was far dumber for Parler's current founders and investors to try and create the Nth twitter clone in the current year than it is for Kanye to try and run it. Assuming he paid a reasonable price - buying Parler is probably faster, simpler, easier than creating your own app, which Kanye might not have the expertise/team to feel comfortable doing.

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Post by breck »

tptacek wrote: post #117

This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

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Post by dudeinjapan »

diceduckmonk wrote: post #416
dudeinjapan wrote: post #399

I'm gonna be a contrarian here and say I'm genuinely excited to see what Yeezy does with the platform, assuming its not just a passing interest. For all his antics, his work in music and fashion is legit, and those two are a large reason people are on social media today. If we required artists be 100% free of mental illness, we would not have Van Gogh, Georgia O'Keeffe, Kusama Yayoi, Michelangelo, Brian Wilson, etc.…

There's even a word for this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outsider_art Just learned about this at the Mori Art Museum, since your username is dudeinjapan.

Funny thing I just learned the same a few days ago, but I think through a click-chain beginning on HN. Been awhile since I was last at Mori Art Museum, they have some good stuff. Many years ago I used to volunteer there giving tours for learning disabled young adults.

Recommend to check out the Museum of Contemporary Art Tokyo (MOT), they have some killer exhibits, I've been to nearly every one the last few years.

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Post by nemothekid »

P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul wrote: post #320
taylodl wrote: post #160

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and these Parler people are scamming him - that's an interesting point I hadn't thought of. My first thought on hearing this news was so what? I don't care about Parler or Kanye West, but if Parler is taking advantage of Kanye's mental decline then that's next-level awful. Like I said, I'm no fan of Kanye, but that's horrible to take advantage of people like that.

Is Elon Musk being scammed by Twitter? Same situation. Can't a rich dude buy a company without goofy rumors being spread (scammed into buying Parler)? Having a celebrity owner increases the value.

>Is Elon Musk being scammed by Twitter?

This is no where near the same situation. When Elon originally put is offer to buy Twitter, Twitter didn't even want to sell. Then the market crashed and all the sudden Elon's own offer was almost double of the "fair market price" for Twitter.

Elon would be insane if he made the same offer today.

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Post by jshaqaw »

dk775 wrote: post #274
simongr3dal wrote: post #172

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The story told on the Dissect podcast[1] about Kanye and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy really paints a picture of a person who is not very well. [1]: https://anchor.fm/dissect/episodes/S2E1--Kanye-West-The-Elep...

Listen to his interviews yourself. Any medium, including podcasts, are packaging a narrative for you to hear. For better or worse. Personally and I’m black I listened to his latest interview and his points are pretty strong, it becomes obvious how he is being painted in a false light after hearing the interviews for yourself then hearing other people use clips to say he’s mentally ill and crazy.

Would those be the points where he rehashes the same antisemitic tropes which have circulated for hundreds of years and every once in a while leads to the massacres of innocent people? Because if he doesn’t get an out due to mental illness he is just another little attention whore neonazi.

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Post by kgwxd »

filoleg wrote: post #452
c3534l wrote: post #425

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I don't know much about Kanye, but are reports of people telling him he didn'h have talent to be a rapper genuine, or just something he tells people? Because it sounds like the sort of thing people make up for their own personal narrative. It reminds me of when people say things like "the doctor told me I only had a year to live" - which is something no doctor would actually say because its a massive legal liability,…

It was genuine. He worked hard to get good at making beats, to the point he got signed at Roc-a-Fella Records to make beats for big artists at the time (Jay-Z, Alicia Keys, etc). He was super known for that in the industry, but Kanye insisted on one specific term of the contract - they gotta let him release his own album. Which they hesitantly allowed, because they thought he was just gonna fail and go back to what t…

> All of this is confirmed by tons of other people affiliated with Roc-a-Fella Records (like Jay-Z and others) at the time.

They're in on the story.

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Post by dudeinjapan »

npteljes wrote: post #498
dudeinjapan wrote: post #399

I'm gonna be a contrarian here and say I'm genuinely excited to see what Yeezy does with the platform, assuming its not just a passing interest. For all his antics, his work in music and fashion is legit, and those two are a large reason people are on social media today. If we required artists be 100% free of mental illness, we would not have Van Gogh, Georgia O'Keeffe, Kusama Yayoi, Michelangelo, Brian Wilson, etc.…

The argument here is not that Kanye should be "mental illness free". Rather it's supposed that people around him exploit his vulnerability.

Lol who says he's being exploited? The dude has a couple billion, one doesn't get that kind of money by being gullible and easily exploitable. He can handle himself. Do we even know the valuation?

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Post by dkonofalski »

AlwaysRock wrote: post #213
tptacek wrote: post #117

This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

It's sad because to become successful Kanye had to ignore hundreds/thousands of important people telling him he wasnt good enough and he would never make it as a rapper. Then he became, arguably, the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time. Now image you've done what seems impossible despite countless people telling you it wont work out. You are in the top 1% of fame. Now someone tells you your other ideas are…

I think you've hit the nail on the head here. This is a very sad, very public case of mental illness combined with the paradox of success. There's no way, healthy or not, that he wouldn't think he knows better than everyone else for exactly the reason you describe. Anyone in his position would be fighting back the naysayers. The major difference is that Kanye has had enough failures and stumbles now that his whole "god" and "GOAT" persona is publicly falling apart and he doesn't know how to handle it. The mental health issues are just exacerbating his inability to reconcile his personal ambitions with reality.

Just think about it... if you've been a success for so long and suddenly aren't, who would you blame? If you didn't say anyone but yourself, you're not Kanye.

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Post by andirk »

mariodiana wrote: post #477
AlwaysRock wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's sad because to become successful Kanye had to ignore hundreds/thousands of important people telling him he wasnt good enough and he would never make it as a rapper. Then he became, arguably, the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time. Now image you've done what seems impossible despite countless people telling you it wont work out. You are in the top 1% of fame. Now someone tells you your other ideas are…

Kanye makes me think of someone I knew. I knew a young woman once whose conversation was impossible to follow. She was a college graduate, and seemed intelligent. But, I think either her mind wandered, or else she simply lacked the capacity to reliably establish context in conversation. I assure you, I really tried to make sense of what she was saying to me. She was beautiful, and I was interested in her. (I say this…

To a lesser extent, I have found entertainment in speaking with people who start a topic with their thesis (i.e. why are there Yellow Pages and White Pages? So stupid!) To which you lightly counter with some easy to digest fact (i.e. yellow is biz, white is res), and then a few sentences later, they'll conclude with their original point, as if you said nothing at all (i.e. See? Isn't it stupid, yellow and white pages. Makes no sense!). It was frustrating before, but now it's enjoyable to see a person live in a different reality right in front of me.

Note: Sorry for dating myself and using a The Simpsons reference.

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