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> will piss people off Well it pisses off the people who aren't paying you anything. It probably pleases the people who were paying you, because now they don't have to subsidise the people who aren't.
> Well it pisses off the people who aren't paying you anything. These users will either move to on-premise systems or pay to a competitor now.
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Yes. But as someone that's been meaning to switch off of Evernote - never has a project bloated their own software with so many unasked for features / desperate attempts to grow valuation - it's a non-trivial project. One needs to have a high degree of trust in the import tool and new repository.
While it's not perfect, I like Evernote and its new incarnation. Feature parity between platforms is what saved it for me, and use almost all of the features they offer. I was getting ready to leave it for good. Nevertheless, I don't expect everyone to share the same sentiment. On the other hand, you don't need to import anywhere at first. Just convert your files to Markdown, put the files aside and create your local…
Stop using chat for things that you want to keep long term. It's not just about retention. Even with long term retention, it's nearly impossible to find things in a huge dump of unstructured conversation. EDIT - and stop using things that are invisible to search engines.
We’ve set our Slack to cull content older than 30 days.
Knowing that information posted on Slack is transient nudges our team to use the appropriate platform for information that needs to be persisted.
Also, it’s more comfortable to chat casually knowing that what you say isn’t indefinitely retained and searchable.
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No, some certainly were. There's one quoted in the blog post, for example. In a small community, and if you're not using it for lots of chit-chat but rather for something focused like scientific research, you can go years and years without reaching 10k messages. So in that circumstance, it's pretty reasonable to have chosen Slack under its old policy. Especially if one wasn't aware of Zulip. ;-) (I'm one of the Zulip…
> ather for something focused like scientific research, you can go years and years without reaching 10k messages I don’t know what kind of scientists you’ve worked with, but I haven’t met any so short-winded
An example is a Python users group where there’s maybe a few threads a week. And it’s really useful to search for old threads.
Another is a hackathon with maybe 30 people where there were a few hundred messages over a week and then 1 message a month.
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> Well it pisses off the people who aren't paying you anything. These users will either move to on-premise systems or pay to a competitor now.
If they’re willing to pay a competitor or self-host why wouldn’t they be willing to pay Slack?
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DIGG blew its userbase by fucking up the UX. Reddit is on path to do same. If reddit ever kills old.reddit, exodus will happen. - But seriously, a designer should be thinking about the consumption/participation model as opposed to just the eyeballs/adwords-please-kill-me-now model... The consumption and participation of a site is direct to the UX - and when DIGG basically made it a 100% consumption push, while also m…
> If reddit ever kills old.reddit, exodus will happen. You overestimate. Most people have moved on, and reddit gains new users every day who have no idea what old.reddit is.
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IMO Discourse is crap. I've never personally seen any discourse communities that are as thriving and active as the phpBB, SMF, VBulletin, forums they replaced Something about the design of Discourse does not actually encourage discourse. On top of that, discourse is a resource hog. You can run tens of twenties of phpBB forums on the hardware that's required to run one instance of discourse
Yeah I hate it as well :( maybe someone should write an open source forum as well
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While it's not perfect, I like Evernote and its new incarnation. Feature parity between platforms is what saved it for me, and use almost all of the features they offer. I was getting ready to leave it for good. Nevertheless, I don't expect everyone to share the same sentiment. On the other hand, you don't need to import anywhere at first. Just convert your files to Markdown, put the files aside and create your local…
Did they finally add exports bigger than 50 items to the new app? Last I checked, you still had to install the old one for a full export, and I don't expect it will work forever.
I don't think they have note limits on exporting notebooks.
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Same with Evernote. Massive ‘growth’ on the free plan. No good way to capitalize, so they just started deleting features and locking people’s content in. There is no regular export to get everything out and you need to jump through a lot of hoops. I wish I never updated that app…
Not to mention 1Password
I bet it was the App Store and the Mac Store where you couldn't pay for updates that started them thinking about a subscription model.