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FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Not the FCC, this is one FCC commissioner's statement. He's not the chair, nor is he part of the majority party, so you can probably read this as a political statement. Republicans had a chance to ban TikTok during the last administration. They did not do it.

It annoys me that these headlines keep falsely attributing his statements to the FCC as a whole. I hate TikTok and I tend to agree that it’s a security risk (so, too, is Facebook, IMO). But this guy has it out for TikTok solely for political reasons and in order to please Trump.

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What remains constant when I give my son a hug? Or I say, “thank you?” The zero-sum game is life stuff is nonsense.

When you eat food, something had to die for that. It was a transfer of biochemical energy from that creature to you. Even if it was a vegetarian meal, it got transported to you and dumped CO2 into the atmosphere. The truck probably hit bugs and maybe ran over some small wildlife. If you didn't exist, there would be slightly less demand. If 300 million of you didn't exist, there would be a whole lot less demand. The w…

I think this is a stretch here, you’re saying “entropy is real, thus the universe is zero sum.”

Hell, we don’t even know if the energy budget for the universe is a constant - we just haven’t observed the opposite yet.

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> EUropean here. > Who cares? Is this an American thing to always brag something about race, or how much "non-racist we are"? It matters because it's unprecedented in the United States, which is far more diverse than any other country in the world by a long shot. Think about all the racial tension that exists in most European countries from some sizable "outsider" populations. Roma in most of Europe. Polish in Englan…

>United States, which is far more diverse than any other country in the world

Here’s one fundamental problems with many Americans: they know nothing about outside world.

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China and the US are converging to a disturbing (to me at least) degree, in the sense that the big-player companies are intertwined with the national government; the US is kind of in denial about that.

"converging" It's not like that hasn't already been a part of history for a long time. More or less just depends on your POV. I do think that how it works from nation to nation is very different.

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> The differentiator here is national security, Which means that all countries other than the US also should be banning Facebook, and most US companies. As Snowden showed, most of them have a history of wire fraud.

> Which means that all countries other than the US also should be banning Facebook In case you hadn't heard (I presume you have, us being on HN and all), there is some movement within the EU towards that end

Blatantly false. Completely unrealistic. Additional regulation towards privacy perhaps - affecting all similar (American, Chinese, European etc.) platforms. But not an outright ban.

Facebook threatening to close their site in Europe because of regulations is not the same as EU banning them.

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“The old law of an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.”

But the law acts sometimes a deter factor. Because you know you will lose your eye if you damage someone else (at least on purpose).

It leads to escalation because people (or nations) disagree about when the balance is restored, due to loss aversion (subjectively feeling more intensity from a loss than from an objectively equivalent win), among other things. That leads to perpetual eye for an eye for an eye for an eye, and to a tendency to increase rather than decrease the reciprocity.

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> You could argue that a data hoarder in a jurisdiction other than your own is even less significant for personal data security. I kinda feel this way. On a national security level, China having everyone's data is absolutely a disaster. But on a personal level - if I lived in the United States, I would rather the Chinese government surveil me than the US government.

They aren’t just going to surveil you though. They will actively work to promote disinformation to you.

Ah yes. Unlike honest ole' Uncle Sam. He would never do such a thing.

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The USA is a democracy. Arguing otherwise is the pot calling the kettle black.

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>how can the United States be a democracy when the “demos” have no say whatsoever in their own governance?

They do have a say. How do they not?

(But keep in mind that 89% of them would disagree with your politics.)

>Where that government puts up roadblock after roadblock protecting itself from the influence of any but the obscenely wealthy?

Compared to where, actual oligarchies like Russia? Your metrics are uncalibrated af.

>I am Gen X. For around five decades now I have voted. It has never affected my life positively.

Congrats, you've apparently been privileged enough to not benefit from Obamacare or the drawdown of the Afghanistan war, or ending "Don't Ask Don't Tell", or the overturn of Trump's transgender service member ban, or the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure Act, or the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, or the halt on federal executions, or the recent reductions in unemployment, etc.

To you, these things were unnoticeable blips in an uninteresting history because you were never in the unfortunate positions that apply, like someone on welfare, someone in the military, etc.

>Roe v Wade overturned

You got this because all of the people who voted Republican got it (since the Republicans packed the Supreme Court with three conservative judges). So, for them, the system worked. Also, it gets funnier: Roe v Wade, if you read its Wikipedia article, was considered a pretty bad ruling, and some predicted that how poor it was opened the door for overturn later. Meanwhile, in the decades that the Supreme Court let it languish, like a hazardously-perched kludge giving women everywhere abortion rights, Democrats failed to vote for actual legislation protecting abortion rights as they should have.

That's why "you got" Roe v Wade overturned.

On the plus side, a strong majority of Americans support abortion, so it shouldn't be difficult to vote for legislation. The only thing that could mess that up is silly, entitled, nihilist attitudes like yours.

>But hey, we can get rid of the filibuster to raise the debt ceiling. Just not to investigate cops for being Nazis.

Unhinged.

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"As for me, I'm an American and it is in my best interests that USA stays top dog. I didn't immigrate here to downgrade lol, so I want USA to do whatever it needs to be the top player." The country or its people? This seems like a very selfish sentiment. Shouldn't we want everyone to prosper, no matter where they are from? There are countless who may not be able to afford to emigrate to the US

Life is largely zero-sum.

It's extremely not. Cooperation generally benefits everyone, and hostility can decrease value for everyone besides few criminals on top.
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