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Re: I'm an addict

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Post by attero »

artemonster wrote: post #9

This hits hard. I recently counted hours watched on YT (via history export) and OH MY GD, it averaged around 3 hours daily throught the year, for several years. I just imagined WHAT IF I have spent this amount of effort and time on ANYTHING else: playing an instrument, learning a new language, coding a side-project. The thought scared me so much, aka the difference between current me and "potential" me that I have ab…

This is very real. The time adds up and it's often not the best way to relax/learn. Not only you could spend this time being productive, you could also just be resting or sleeping or just reflecting on your life.

You might want to check out https://watchlimits.com/ (free extension, I built this), or some other tools I mention in https://watchlimits.com/blog/posts/more_hours_per_week/

Re: I'm an addict

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Post by supernihil »

malux85 wrote: post #506
supernihil wrote: post #160

I dont like the idea of replacing the time spend compulsively procrastinating with "learning a new language, getting a pet, going to the gym" is the right way. I see the root cause (for me atleast (used to read HN and blogs for 4 hours everyday)) is that i cant stand being with myself. During the last two months ive been trying to not panic when i'm idle. And not take out my phone or read the nearest material i can l…

I see this a lot and I’m curious - why can’t you stand being with yourself? You touch on it a little when you say you begin to panic when you’re idle - what is the source of that panic? Is it FOMO? Is it un-processed traumatic memories? Is it unhinged neuroticism and overthinking? Is it something else? What is the source of that panic?

I dont like my company because: I endlessly think about solutions to problems like personal budget, relationship to my kids mom, feeling alone and having no immediate people to talk to. That my mental illness is deteriorating. That my kids will inherit my ilness. Etc etc etc. And then i also spend too much time trying to figure out how other people function since i sincerely dont have an idea of what "normal behavior of lifestyle" looks like"

Both of these are traits of my skizotypical diagnosis being 'lack of identity' 'lack of understanding of how other people engage in life' 'emotional blindness' etc

Re: I'm an addict

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Post by AussieWog93 »

pixl97 wrote: post #550
AussieWog93 wrote: post #533

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>Which morality is that? Who cares? It gets drug addicts clean and criminals reformed.

And turns them in to extremists that attack and kill others? It turns out there are many cares in which system of morality one chooses.

>And turns them in to extremists that attack and kill others?

I'd be curious to see the stats on that.

Re: I'm an addict

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Post by ChildOfChaos »

jnovek wrote: post #198
supernihil wrote: post #160

I dont like the idea of replacing the time spend compulsively procrastinating with "learning a new language, getting a pet, going to the gym" is the right way. I see the root cause (for me atleast (used to read HN and blogs for 4 hours everyday)) is that i cant stand being with myself. During the last two months ive been trying to not panic when i'm idle. And not take out my phone or read the nearest material i can l…

I am nearly the opposite, but it has the same effect. I can spend hours in my own head, just thinking about… everything. For me the phone rabbit hole usually starts with an idea that needs more information to live. The outcome, however, is the same: I get very little practical work done, I am constantly behind and very frustrated.

Yes I have this problem.

I am getting better at doing things, but I quickly become overwhelmed, because those thoughts never stop and instead of doing what I need to do, it's a battle plus all those thoughts I have that feel like I need to spend time thinking them through etc, rather than doing the most basic of things that I need to do.

Re: I'm an addict

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Post by phist_mcgee »

seti0Cha wrote: post #107

I'm not an addict, but I'm addict adjacent, literally and metaphorically. While it's good that the poster identified the problem, the cold turkey approach is not usually sufficient. Beating addiction by simply removing the thing you are addicted to is very difficult because it leaves a big hole in your life. You need to replace your addiction with something healthy. Andreas did very effectively because he found somet…

Andreas Kling who created Serenity OS if anyone was wondering. He's been an inspiration to me for sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SerenityOS

Re: I'm an addict

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Post by noobker »

tommit wrote: post #211
noobker wrote: post #200

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> I hold unto my right as a mammal to be inefficient and sit drooling looking at trees here, here!

Quick question: we have a similar (the same?) exclamation in German, it's "hört, hört!" which would be translated to "hear, hear!", not "here, here!". Is it actually "here, here!" in English or it possible you've just mistaken the words after having only heard them?

The old saying in English is "hear, hear", in reference to old parliament procedures.

I use "here, here" on text forums because you can't hear anything, but "right here" is a post worth reading!

Re: I'm an addict

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Post by snikeris »

engineer_22 wrote: post #365
snikeris wrote: post #275

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> If pressed I guess I’ll say it’s unlikely to be true. But that’s not the point. The problem is expecting the dogma of a thousands years old tradition and book to be absolutely true. There are things in the Bible and Christianity that are basically tall tales. For example, I doubt Jesus was immaculately conceived, but it makes for a great story. People make up stories about remarkable people. I believe Jesus was a r…

I didn't read it, but I listened to an audiobook version of TKOGIWY about a year ago on a long road trip. I must have missed something, because my take-away was that the author was propounding the merits of of passivism, and anti-authoritarianism. I thought it was tedious. I remember being disappointed.

It is very dense and in a philosophical style. I'm not surprised it was tedious as an audiobook. I'd like to read it again myself. My takeaway was that Tolstoy believed Christ had ushered in a new era for man, philosophically. The previous eras were:

1. man serves self and family

2. man serves state and country

3. man serves god

He believed many of our problems are due to most of us still being stuck at level 2 of existence. A man at level 3 is immune to the problems of a man at level 2. For example, they couldn't even compel Jesus w/ bodily harm. They killed him, and what good did it do them?

He also argued that the shift to level 3 is inevitable and already in progress.

Re: I'm an addict

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Post by tonyarkles »

misiti3780 wrote: post #476
tonyarkles wrote: post #300

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I think you'll find that that varies dramatically from denomination to denomination. When I was a kid, my grandparents and parents took us to a Southern Baptist church. I agree, 100%, and I'm not even sure that I'd qualify that with the word "benign" :) In university, I dated a Lutheran (in Canada, there's two "sub-Lutheran" organizations, she was a part of the "more welcoming one") and it was a night and day differe…

my experience is with Catholicism. you dont have to do too much research to see where that went wrong.

Lol yeah...

Re: I'm an addict

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Post by maerF0x0 »

jokethrowaway wrote: post #554
birdyrooster wrote: post #472

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I know enough shitty parents to say this does not have a high rate of success in changing people for the better, but I will leave it to Jordan Peterson, he seems like a real expert type.

A lot of people nowadays lack responsibility. Society keeps encouraging a lifestyle with less and less responsibility. The government takes care of you (until you start bringing in profits), your employer takes care of you (with no raises). Everything seems engineered to coddle people without making them realise what they're missing. I feel most people are basically unaware cattle, happy to stay in their comfort zone…

I've heard a hypothesis in the past (cannot recall the data) that people who put themselves under financial responsibility (eg through debt, virtuous or vice) often are pressed into earning more. That is it seems the mechanism might be you get stressed about paying your bills so you pursue a life of higher income. People might become wealthier as home owners not because of the wealth the home generates but because of the consistent act of building a little wealth month by month for 25 years, and for want of a bit more disposable income they chase a promotion, raise, or more valuable skills.

I believe there is a similar function in marriages, parenting, and other relationships -- the act of working through challenges makes you a "better" person at least in the regards of perspective, negotiation, less selfishness etc.

Of course, like basically everything in every discussion, there are exceptions but lets not focus on those because it makes it difficult to talk about anything save for physical laws.

Re: I'm an addict

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Post by paulryanrogers »

mantas wrote: post #524
paulryanrogers wrote: post #194

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Really? The only thing that will motivate them is a baseless claim about life/suffering after death?

What else?

People are motivated by many things. They don't need fairy tales. Religion and superstition has ruled over people for thousands of years. Let's give evidenced-based approaches a few millennia before we go back to that garbage.
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