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I can believe they don't have an extensive GitHub... but if they can't use Git they must have either only had a few jobs that all used something else(That's fine, just uncommon), or be in a specialist industry that doesn't use Git(Also not common), or they don't know VCS at all.
The new hire who showed up is not the same person we interviewed
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Maybe it is time to get a new job. These days there is a big shortage of tech talent and deserving candidates can get very good pay in India. The typical trick is to apply for and interview to as many companies as you can. Get a good offer and put in your papers. Given that most companies have a 2-3 month notice period, once you are on notice, you can continue applying for jobs and shop around. The funded startups in…
2-3 month notice?! Holy shit, is this really standard? In the US, it's univerally 2 weeks .
Re: The new hire who showed up is not the same person we interviewed
#563Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe it is time to get a new job. These days there is a big shortage of tech talent and deserving candidates can get very good pay in India. The typical trick is to apply for and interview to as many companies as you can. Get a good offer and put in your papers. Given that most companies have a 2-3 month notice period, once you are on notice, you can continue applying for jobs and shop around. The funded startups in…
2-3 month notice?! Holy shit, is this really standard? In the US, it's univerally 2 weeks .
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That sounds to me like it would meet the legal definition of fraud. A lawsuit to recuperate the wages and damage to the business might even be worth looking into.
> A lawsuit to recuperate the wages and damage to the business might even be worth looking into. No, probably not. Speak to any business owner who has been in a lawsuit and they'll likely tell you it's not worth the headache. A close relative told me that even if a customer straight up won't pay for a done job, he'd rather forgo the payment then deal with a lawsuit. Lawsuits usually have: 1) monetary costs - those la…
I think it was about € 600. I spoke to a lawyer, may have written a letter threatening a lawsuit even, but the lawyer explained that it just wasn't enough to actually start a lawsuit over. Even if you win, lawsuits take a lot of time and energy. I just dropped it. And them, obviously.
A different case from the opposite side:
I'm currently looking at a disagreement with my previous phone provider. They charged me too much over the past year. I called them about it, and they wanted me to prove we agreed on the monthly fees I claimed, and not the ones they claim. But they can't claim we agreed on their fees, so I just stopped paying and switched to a different (better and cheaper) phone provider (which I should have done a long time ago anyway). They're threatening to cut my phone which already isn't with them. They want money from me, but yesterday I wrote them a letter explaining they actually owe me money.
I expect this will go away. They may register me somewhere as a bad-payer, but there's an appeal process that I expect will side with me, because the phone company can't prove a thing.
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#565I once interviewed a person who couldn't answer a single question, not even the easiest ones. He would just say "I don't know, ask me the next question". A few weeks later I realized it was probably a plant that another candidate sent to collect the interview questions. And I think I even know who it was. We hired her, she wasn't very good writing code. But she answered all our questions perfectly, which only happene…
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"eager to learn, sense of ownership" Well, that disqualifies me. The way most organizations tie your hands means one is given all the responsibility without real authority. I'm completely unmotivated because of that. Edit: Sucks that my feelings are being downvoted.
> Edit: Sucks that my feelings are being downvoted There was more there than feelings. Saying you know how most organisations work is probably it.
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#567I've experienced the following hiring remotely: * A candidate who was caught lip syncing to someone talking in the room behind them. * A candidate who had air pods to listen to someone coaching them. * Plenty of candidates who just wont turn on the video no matter what. Remote interviewing has some bizarre drawbacks.
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#568I guess you need to remember your lies? Or don't say you are single when you have wife and three kids. Which just makes it sound like a mixup rather than fraud. Maybe the recruiter called the wrong person. I mean you only say your name once during a call. The person that got the job just made the initial screening interview, and answered the recruiters mail, while they talked to another guy. He then thinks they are s…
> I guess you need to remember your lies? Or don't say you are single when you have wife and three kids. Yeah, that's the odd thing. You'd think that the guy who handled the interviews would have gotten some background on the guy who would actually join the company and adjusted his small-talk story to match. Then again, the low-effort approach "worked", at least to get the guy hired. If the interviewed guy was gettin…
Imagine the opposing side write up of this. Note that HR did not confront him with allegations of fraud.
"My boss is staring at me with a confused look. My smalltalk about my family made him leave the room hastely. Lawers are lurking around in the hallway. They starts to question my competence after just one week. Is this place a joke? Did they hire me to fill a fire quota?"
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> That guy ended up being another of my best hires. Communication was always a chore, results always through the roof. With the colleague from the interview and one other, he became one of my three developer archetypes in a much longer story. There needs to be a website that captures these types of war stories.
I recently saw that the Daily WTF is still up.
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#570This is what the large Indian IT-outsourcing companies do at scale. When they need to win the contract, they bring in bright and very qualified people to win the client-org over. After the contract is won and the work begins, they replace them with completely unqualified staff, managed/whipped by moustache-wielding blue-shirts to read from support-scripts.
I remember when our company signed a contract with TCS. Our execs were very excited to get access to their “Center of Excellence” experts on some vendor products we were struggling with: LifeRay, AEM etc. Anyway once the contract was signed they didn’t send anyone and we had to hire other contractors who were also not very good.
My impression was that the good people they have are very good, but the bad people are barely competent enough to warm a chair.