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Cannabis use produces persistent cognitive impairments: meta review

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Post by gigaflop »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #559
gigaflop wrote: post #538

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Not parent, but if I could alter my state to be like-high without smoking weed, via sheer mental willpower or focus, I'd have probably started a cult by now. If it was a teachable practice, I'm sure I'd have plenty of followers to boot.

No one starts cults any more. The lack of drug cults is proof! I'd love to go to some chill temple environment on the weekends and connect to ultimate reality.

I've been tossing around the idea of a primarily web-based cult for a few days, I'll let you know if we get any traction.

It's still in the ideation stage, and we don't have anything other than a few 'what-ifs', but this is tech, so it's not like we need to be fully implemented before we start taking members.

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Post by tehjoker »

systemvoltage wrote: post #35
tehjoker wrote: post #29

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If people were less career obsessed, it would vastly reduce the amount of evil in the world tbh. Most large scale evil is done by career obsessed freaks. I heard a talk show host once speculate that one reason weed has been illegal for so long is it would make the various motivational sticks and carrots the ruling class uses with white collar workers less effective in aggregate.

That’s crazy man. I’m very career focused and I want to improve the world. I work extremely hard, all day and everyday. I’m evil? Here is some context, I commented elsewhere on my work ethic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29895639

It depends on what the incentives are for a career obsessed person. Someone that puts their career above basically everything else will short term optimize at the expense of e.g. public wellbeing to get in the good graces of powerful people. Profits are made off of vile decisions. That's capitalism.

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Post by bregma »

lolinder wrote: post #422
bregma wrote: post #368

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Getting into a car is necessary for having an accident, but it is insufficient. The "gateway drug" argument is that any amount of cannabis is sufficient for becoming a skin-popping fentanyl junkie, but it is not necessary.

> The "gateway drug" argument is that any amount of cannabis is sufficient for becoming a skin-popping fentanyl junkie That's an extreme, and not representative of what most people mean when they say "gateway drug". My understanding of the gateway drug argument is this: someone who starts with a seemingly-innocuous mind-altering substance is more likely to end up wanting more and going for harder stuff than someone w…

The correlation is that those who use "hard" drugs have often also previously used other drugs, including alcohol and prescription medication. Flipping that around to say the using cannabis leads to injecting heroin is the classic post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy.

Perhaps the correlation is a result of cannabis being illegal in your country: if you break one law (cannabis use), the barriers are down and you may as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb and explore stronger remedies for your troubles.

So the questions that need to be investigated are these. Is there in fact any kind of correlation? If there is a correlation, is it causative? Of course, no true believer needs these questions answered, which is why the research into these things in not legal in countries where prohibition enforcement and punishment is big industry.

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Post by uejfiweun »

schwartzworld wrote: post #551
mwattsun wrote: post #540

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I live in California where it's legal so I can sample the various wares to see what works best. The dab pen's are cheap but much too harsh. Edibles take too long to come on and it's hard to get the dose right. I've gone back to smoking bud, because it works and doesn't feel harmful like vaping oil. I don't smoke everyday. I use it maybe once or twice a week when I get stuck on a problem, like finding myself getting o…

Check out the dynavap. I've never seen a battery powered vape come close.

This is intriguing. What exactly is so good about it? And does it vape flower? My Arizer is getting a little clogged and I was thinking about upgrading soon.

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Post by dr_dshiv »

gigaflop wrote: post #561
dr_dshiv wrote: post #559

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one starts cults any more. The lack of drug cults is proof! I'd love to go to some chill temple environment on the weekends and connect to ultimate reality.

I've been tossing around the idea of a primarily web-based cult for a few days, I'll let you know if we get any traction. It's still in the ideation stage, and we don't have anything other than a few 'what-ifs', but this is tech, so it's not like we need to be fully implemented before we start taking members.

Sounds great, let me know

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Post by droussel »

Yuioup wrote: post #18

How long do they persist? 1 day, 1 week, a year, ten years? I used to be a daily smoker and was horribly addicted. Now, at least ten years after I quit, I find myself having trouble remembering things. I lose my train of thought a lot too, really annoying. I don't know if that was attributed to my cannabis use, or just my brain in general.

Now that I am in my forties, simply having a bad night of sleep can have me forgetting names of colleagues and messing up the names between the dogs and my daughters. Lack of sleep is one of the most debilitating thing and it certainly wasn't like that 10-15 years ago. Ageing sucks!

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Post by alxndr »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #559
gigaflop wrote: post #538

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not parent, but if I could alter my state to be like-high without smoking weed, via sheer mental willpower or focus, I'd have probably started a cult by now. If it was a teachable practice, I'm sure I'd have plenty of followers to boot.

No one starts cults any more. The lack of drug cults is proof! I'd love to go to some chill temple environment on the weekends and connect to ultimate reality.

> No one starts cults any more. The lack of drug cults is proof!

Um...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Church_of_Cann...

https://www.thedivineassembly.org/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santo_Daime

Re: Cannabis use produces persistent cognitive impairments: meta review

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Post by alxndr »

hypertele-Xii wrote: post #259
Yuioup wrote: post #18

How long do they persist? 1 day, 1 week, a year, ten years? I used to be a daily smoker and was horribly addicted. Now, at least ten years after I quit, I find myself having trouble remembering things. I lose my train of thought a lot too, really annoying. I don't know if that was attributed to my cannabis use, or just my brain in general.

As a continuous overthinker, I switched from admonishing myself for losing my train of thought to feeling relief for a brief moment of thoughtlessness. In terms of evolutionary biology, all forms of life develop memory first. Only once sufficiently resilient, an organism can begin to learn to forget things. Forgetting is an incredibly valuable tool. Don't diss it. Embrace the train of thought going off the rails ever…

> In terms of evolutionary biology, all forms of life develop memory first. Only once sufficiently resilient, an organism can begin to learn to forget things.

Interesting, can you link to more info on this?

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