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Tesla’s headquarters will move to Austin

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Re: Tesla’s headquarters will move to Austin

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Post by pvarangot »

muzz wrote: post #365
pvarangot wrote: post #219

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According to a friend that moved to Austin last year, yeah traffic is a problem but in downtown Austin in new buildings it's even worse. Sewage is a problem.

That sounds really bad. What are the specific problems with sewage there?

I won't repeat what he said as it's as sourceless as what I said before, but it's a problem, builders complain about it, the infrastructure for the city is not well run. Here's two sources for problems like in the past month:

This two are the same problem: http://www.austintexas.gov/news/sanitary-sewer-overflow-repo... https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/sewer-overflow-sends-...

https://www.kxan.com/investigations/93-of-austins-stormwater...

Re: Tesla’s headquarters will move to Austin

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Post by vletal »

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OT: I thought that I would not see this in mid-2021.

Re: Tesla’s headquarters will move to Austin

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Post by maxekman »

vletal wrote: post #562

> Our European visitors are important to us. > This site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area while we work to ensure your data is protected in accordance with applicable EU laws. OT: I thought that I would not see this in mid-2021.

Very disappointing.

Re: Tesla’s headquarters will move to Austin

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Post by etchalon »

boringg wrote: post #220
etchalon wrote: post #141

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As someone who just bought a house in Austin this year, if the reason is "affordable housing", they're in for a world of hurt.

I mean are you seriously comparing affordability of Austin to the bay area? My sense is that you have only lived in Austin and thus don't know how squeezed things are in the bay area. Not trying to be rude but just trying to point out how much more affordable Austin is relative to the bay area.

I've lived in Kansas City, DC, Chicago, New York, San Francisco and Austin.

Is Austin cheaper than San Francisco? Yes.

Would I classify Austin as "affordable"?

I would have two years ago, when my wife and I were first looking to move here. That was the whole reason we began the process.

But, it's gotten insane.

We were going to wait a year, after renting, before we bought. Prices here were rising, we bought within six months so we wouldn't get priced out of our neighborhood.

On my street, I have neighbors who bought literally a year before me, who live in basically the same home (1970s subdivision so all the houses are basically templates) that paid 40% less than we did.

My neighbors could not afford to buy their current homes at the prices they're currently selling for. They cannot afford to buy similar homes in similar neighborhoods.

This is only going to get worse.

Re: Tesla’s headquarters will move to Austin

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Post by bobthepanda »

t-writescode wrote: post #537
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #530

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Seattle could be better connected, but it isn’t that bad. If you are going downtown, you can get something, even something lateral Ballard to Bellevue requires just one connection.

As long as Seattle is your source or destination, Seattle's transit is pretty okay. If you dare go Eastside; or, worse, need to go from like Renton to Totem Lake; or Redmond to somewhere that isn't the the center of Bellevue, you're just never going to get there in a reasonable amount of time.

these are at least all getting addressed with the massive upgrades that are ongoing. Local Eastside transit will be much better once East Link is opened and bus hours wasted on I-90 are redeployed to serve local areas.

Renton to Totem Lake in particular is planned for 2024-25. https://www.soundtransit.org/system-expansion/i-405-brt

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Post by tdrdt »

andrei512 wrote: post #565

> Our European visitors are important to us. > This site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area while we work to ensure your data is protected in accordance with applicable EU laws.

Well they aren't wrong. They protect important visitors.

Re: Tesla’s headquarters will move to Austin

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Post by adamredwoods »

etchalon wrote: post #238
Apocryphon wrote: post #197

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Beyond housing, isn't traffic a problem? Lots of people will be commuting from Round Rock.

I moved from Chicago, so my definition of bad traffic is fairly skewed. It hasn't been that bad here, but I'm sure some of that is the transition to WFH for a lot of the people who would traditionally have driven into downtown.

Chicago traffic reminds me of LA. It's sprawling, long distances, that crawls bumper to bumper. The SF Bay area's traffic was crawling at all hours of the day and night, but it's shorter distances with many exits. NYC traffic is crazy, but there are plenty of alternatives.

I think all metro traffic situations are relative, because no one likes any amount of traffic.

Re: Tesla’s headquarters will move to Austin

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Post by roenxi »

rcpt wrote: post #403
muzz wrote: post #375

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There is no "large exodus" of people moving out of California. The number of people moving from San Francisco to Austin in a year is something like 240 households. https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/People-are-leavi...

California has exploded to the world's 5th largest economy. Surpassing even the UK. Zero growth isn't the right baseline. The fact that the population hasn't boomed means something is definitely wrong.

It doesn't necessarily mean that something is wrong. It might, ironically, mean the state is just slightly hostile to outsiders.

Nothing to fault them for if they want to be wealthy and exclusive.

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Post by roenxi »

nicoffeine wrote: post #434
FredPret wrote: post #342

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uhhh... they are accountable to every one of their clients, every time those clients make a purchase. For almost all billionaires, that's a far larger constituency and a much more frequent and efficient selection process compared to elections every x years by the 30% of the population who bother to vote. As soon as they stop performing, the money stops rolling in.

They aren't even held accountable when they sell products that spark a nationwide overdose epidemic. "That may seem like a lot of money, but billionaire math can be deceptive. The Sacklers proposed to pay the $4.5 billion out over nine years. Their current fortune is estimated to be at least $11 billion. Conservatively, with interest and investments, this means they can expect a 5 percent annualized rate of return on…

The US has around 700 billionaires. That is comparable in size to the US House of Representatives. There are a lot more politicians than billionaires. Plus there is a lot more turnover in politicians than billionaires.

It doesn't tell you anything that only 1 of them went to jail. Even assuming they are incarcerated at something close to the background rate (an unreasonable assumption) we would expect 0% of them to be in jail; at any given moment. Adjust that for the fact that they have basically no rational reason whatsoever to commit crimes and there is nothing unusual going on.

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