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It's only the ads that the podcasters put in themselves. They are not the Spotify ads.
It's odd, though, that Rogan's podcast only started doing mid-episode ads after the move to Spotify. Prior to the move the only ads were at the beginning of the episode.
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These are extremely valid points. Even Shawn baker doesn’t like the fact that Paul directly profits from promoting carnivore. It’s funny you say there’s a lot of evidence showing LDL is bad etc, ok then show me the randomized interventional study regarding animal fat. Regarding carnivore. You can’t and so whenever you say “there’s lots of evidence” you also have to say “but it’s still unproven.” And yes, there is a d…
> Here’s the rub: nobody I know or have seen has experienced a decline in their health from carnivore. There’s no hard evidence that it’s bad for you. Carnivore Diet wasn't really a thing until about 2018, aside from scattered anecdotes ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=c... ) Heart disease develops over decades. It's very disingenuous to declare that "there's no hard evidence that it's bad…
And I disagree anyway. Heart disease might take a long time but your CAC score wouldn’t stay 0 for a long time. Two years in two cases and CAC of zero. That’s not anecdotal, that’s two clearly measured examples of something that shouldn’t exist under the current model. And you continue to keep your head in the sand. All you have to do is openly support some kind of real interventional study. Not agree with me, but just acknowledge that fact that it isn’t settled and that something so fundamental should be settled. The study will cost a pittance. So are you in favor of that or not?
It's been frustrating watching the Spotify (and general movement) with podcasts fragmenting and going exclusive. Spotify won with music because it improved upon the existing state of listening to music and offered a free or cheap solution that was even a compelling alternative to piracy. Podcasts for the most part were in the ideal state for consumers, almost always free and mostly client independent distributed w/ R…
It's all competition for monopoly. No one "owned" podcasting, like itunes own streaming music and youtube own free-to-air TV. Spotify is trying to be the one that owns it. They bought exclusivity to as many top podcasts as they could in order to start centralizing podcasting on their platform. Eventually enough momentum shifts, and all the other podcasters have to go where users go, spotify. They may or may not succe…
It breaks trust, and makes the spotify app feel adversarial. Like I have to be vigilant when I play music in case I get tricked. In a paid product I don’t want that at all and if it isn’t resolved, I’ll probably cancel my subscription over it and move to Apple Music or something.
I stopped watching purely due to the Spotify deal. I was willing to give it a try until I saw that they were memoryholing episodes. I might be in the minority here but it felt like a betrayal. If he wanted more money he could’ve invested in his own platform like many others and people would’ve followed. There’s plenty of other content in the sea.
I didn't like them banning episodes too. There were internal movements from Spotify employees (liberal Silicon Valley workers) who wanted episodes completely censored and removed. Joe talked about it a few times and I read some articles. The irony is that by moving to these liberal employees' platform, he's losing influence :) By creating a crappy podcast platform they've ensured they get what they want and he ends u…
Unless Spotify publicly disclosed which employees said something along with their political beliefs, I think the best we can do here is describe them as Spotify employees.
Arguably there are reasons to dislike Joe's podcast for people all over the political spectrum.
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I came across a very thorough analysis of the Paul Saladino episode [0] the other day when I was researching him after a friend recommended his book. Seemed like he was cherry picking evidence pretty hard and that the majority of the evidence doesn't agree with his stance at all [0] https://www.biolayne.com/articles/research/paul-saladino-on-...
I will read the full thing later but I find it hard to believe when you see this “Moreover, the current western lifestyle is characterized by high fat intake” Which is stated as fact when it’s not even true. Fat has been stripped out of everything. Even milk has the fat taken out of it. Look anywhere and you will see “fat free” And while I agree that a lot of what saladino says doesn’t have enough evidence to be tota…
Stripped of everything including pizza, burgers and fries?
To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.
He was always into the conspiracy stuff, and it was usually pretty light and interesting. The tone and guests definitely changed around the time he moved to Austin (no knock on Austin, I love that place). Politics and stuff I guess. I lost interest too.
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Dogmatic... really? It's hard for me to think of a less dogmatic public figure. His views are all over the place, change frequently, and aren't at all consistent with each other. His critics (on both right and left) generally seem to want him to be more dogmatic, not less; they want him to be consistent with their own preferred dogma. To me Joe comes across as someone who's figuring it out as they go and doesn't have…
His views are only all over the place if you try to bucket him in the American "Democrat/Republican" binary bucket. If you listen to him for a long time he is surprisingly consistent a number of issues. For example, Joe is a huge supporter of public welfare. He grew up, temporarily, on food stamps and has always pushed back when even the most right of guests would call people on welfare lazy. Likewise I feel he has a…
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I think the model of giving away Joe Rogan to all users of Spotify (even if not paying subscribers) is worst of all worlds from a business POV. Think how many people still subscribe and pay over ten dollars a month to listen to Howard Stern. I subscribe to a few podcasts on patreon at $5 just for the few bonus episodes. And I have trouble believing the ad revenue Spotify gets for this is anywhere close to what paying…
In Joe Rogan's case, I doubt people would pay. Then again, I haven't been able to understand his success. I cringe when he calls himself a Comedian. I cringe when he talks science. (Always felt someone should sit down with him and explain The Placebo Effect, and The Scientific Method, and what goes into a good Clinical study. I would be shocked if he ever even took Psy 101.) Is it the upfront pot use that garners so…
It's been frustrating watching the Spotify (and general movement) with podcasts fragmenting and going exclusive. Spotify won with music because it improved upon the existing state of listening to music and offered a free or cheap solution that was even a compelling alternative to piracy. Podcasts for the most part were in the ideal state for consumers, almost always free and mostly client independent distributed w/ R…
> These deals are just payouts for the hosts not investments that make the shows better Honestly I don't think Spotify bought podcasts to make money from it, they just want people to associate the word "podcast" with the app Spotify. And so far that works because no other app gained significant momentum. The fact that less people watch the show is almost irrelevant