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Re: Tesla’s $16k Quote for a $700 Fix Is Why Right to Repair Matters

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Post by CRConrad » Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 11:40 PM UTC

Meph504 wrote: post #402

gameswithgo wrote: post #320

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As someone who has a great deal of experience working on high performance cars and racing them, I feel your characterization of this fix as a “hack” is ridiculous. People do more questionable fixes and ferraris and lambos regularly.

Do you rent most of them? Because that is the crux of matter, if the guy owned the car, hell I'm all for them doing what they want, and fixing how they choose, and I think Telsa should legally be required to provide the manuals, software, and within reason make the parts available. But this case is, that the guy is renting the car, and Tesla wants him to fix to their standards, and he's trying to pass of this fix, wh…

> But this case is, that the guy is renting the car, and Tesla wants him to fix to their standards

If Tesla the manufacturer charges twenty times more for a repair, it's certainly reasonable to check other alternatives first.

If Tesla the leasor insists that repairs must be done by Tesla the manufacturer, then it seems only fair and equitable that the leasor pays the 1,900 % excess charge to the manufacturer. (It's not as if they'll be that much out of pocket anyway.)

Re: Tesla’s $16k Quote for a $700 Fix Is Why Right to Repair Matters

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Post by Meph504 » Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 11:59 PM UTC

CRConrad wrote: post #561

Meph504 wrote: post #402

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you rent most of them? Because that is the crux of matter, if the guy owned the car, hell I'm all for them doing what they want, and fixing how they choose, and I think Telsa should legally be required to provide the manuals, software, and within reason make the parts available. But this case is, that the guy is renting the car, and Tesla wants him to fix to their standards, and he's trying to pass of this fix, wh…

> But this case is, that the guy is renting the car, and Tesla wants him to fix to their standards If Tesla the manufacturer charges twenty times more for a repair, it's certainly reasonable to check other alternatives first. If Tesla the leasor insists that repairs must be done by Tesla the manufacturer, then it seems only fair and equitable that the leasor pays the 1,900 % excess charge to the manufacturer. (It's n…

If the terms of the lease dictate that Tesla get final say and he signed it. I don't really see how this has anything to do with right to repair, and is a contract dispute, one the renter won't likely have a leg to stand on.

Re: Tesla’s $16k Quote for a $700 Fix Is Why Right to Repair Matters

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Post by smileysteve » Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 9:06 PM UTC

mulmen wrote: post #533

smileysteve wrote: post #527

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Sure. I'm pre turbo. The electric water pump is undoubtedly better for long term, but had initial issues (on the other hand, it has a clear engine code and is easier to access)

I have a 2010 BMW 335, which is twin turbocharged. It is on electric water pump #3 in less than 100k miles. My mechanic tells me not to worry about coolant change intervals because these water pumps will never last that long anyway. The electric pump is great from a performance/efficiency perspective because the car can make choices about coolant temp irrespective of engine speed. It's a horrible device from a reliab…

The previous owner of mine installed a new water pump at 80k miles, and I did it again at 150k. Similarly don't have to change the coolant because the coolant expansion tank will break in 5 years time. (the corner is plastic and can't take the pressure.

Re: Tesla’s $16k Quote for a $700 Fix Is Why Right to Repair Matters

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Post by smileysteve » Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 9:07 PM UTC

mulmen wrote: post #536

smileysteve wrote: post #343

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This. I drive a bmw 3 series. It retailed for $41k in 2004. I bought used in 2011 for $11k. It's now worth about $4. I still drive it, my maintenance costs are minimal, about $250 a year (I do it myself)

Did you mean to write $4k? Because I will absolutely buy your 2004 BMW 3 series for $4.

lol, yee, yes i did mean $4k; and no, hard enough to even get me to consider selling for a newer car, much less for its value or less.