A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

Post by oauea » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 11:03 PM UTC

gowld wrote: post #484

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I think it's ironic that you're saying he has to pay to run his business safely, when Amazon's set things up this way specifically because they don't want to pay to run their business safely. It's a little outrageous that a 3rd party can come take over your storefront without any avenue to challenge.

There is nothing wrong with Cliff's store front: https://www.kleinbottle.com The problem is in Amazon's storefront, and there millions of sellers are operating in the same space, so doing some due diligence is required. If Cliff could just seize ownership of his storefront from a thief, why couldn't a thief seize it from Cliff? The solution is to register a proper trademark. Like it or not, the world is messy, and it…

Post by heavyset_go » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 11:05 PM UTC

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There was a story about a guy who had a self published book. He was the only person printing / selling his book. Until someone showed up on amazon and sold it too, they just copied it and printed it themselves. The copied book is identical, cover and all, images in the Amazon listing too ... Amazon chose to do nothing.

He should just sue for copyright infringement.

Post by heavyset_go » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 11:08 PM UTC

amluto wrote: post #332

CliffStoll wrote: post #116

Guess I'd better say a few things. First, I deeply appreciate that so many on Hacker News have come out for this. Enough to awaken me from a sound sleep on a Tuesday evening! I don't really care that much about selling Klein bottles over Amazon - it's mainly to reach parents over the holidays. But I do wish that Amazon would do something about this kind of thing. Finally, I"m very low on stocks of glass Klein bottles…

Have you considered filing an FTC complaint? The new FTC commissioner actually seems to care about these things.

Post by heavyset_go » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 11:23 PM UTC

unclekev wrote: post #66

seanwilson wrote: post #55

> To make their blackhead remover listing look legit, Amvoom then submitted several hundred orders over Amazon, and immediately cancelled each order. These depleted my Klein bottle inventory on Amazon - even though nothing was paid for, and nothing was shipped. In turn, this removed the "second color option" for their blackhead-remover, since Amazon felt that the Klein bottles were out of stock. Result: their black-h…

> How do people manage to figure out such elaborate ways to manipulate Amazon results without getting banned? Getting banned has minimal cost? Poor detection? Inside information? They don't actually ban the accounts doing this. They only remove the reviews/listings, but don't take any action on the accounts (so they just re-list 24 hours later) Apparently when Amazon acts, they are just removing the fake reviews, som…

Post by corobo » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 11:39 PM UTC

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Amazon is filled to the brim with predominantly Chinese scammers that they have shown no interest in stopping. Scams I've seen: - 2 pack scammers that sell someone else's product as a bundle, but it costs more to buy the 2 pack than it does to buy the real item twice. - Listing swaps, where someone will take a commodity listing with lots of reviews and change the listing to sell overpriced broken garbage - Counterfei…

> These bad actors don't contribute to the Amazon market. There's little reason not to ban them for ToS violations. These bad actors are optimizing for sales, and Amazon benefits from each sale on their marketplace. Their actions result in more money for the bad actors and for Amazon alike. It's a similar situation to VC-funded social media platforms turning a blind eye to bots and automation early on because bot act…