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Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by city41 »

elmo2you wrote: post #202

Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…

I used to be a MacOS user from System 7 to Sierra. I owned an iPhone from 2007 until a few months ago. I have completely switched away from Apple. It absolutely boggles my mind how popular Apple still is. Apple's quality is absolute garbage now, this latest incident is just a drop in the bucket.

I'm sure I'll get downvoted, but I just had to get this off my chest. Why people still buy Apple today, I positively can not comprehend.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by eslaught »

cdubzzz wrote: post #131
eslaught wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this the one-time signature checking that has been in place since Catalina, or is this something else? (And if so is there any information about it?)

I experienced the issue with Mojave while this was happening. So not just Catalina.

Ok, but this doesn't answer the question. If this is the same behavior since Mojave, why aren't those users complaining about this outage on their Mojave and Catalina based system?

Presumably something changed, but so far I haven't heard an explanation that makes sense of it.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by mastazi »

areoform wrote: post #533
submeta wrote: post #2

Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago. Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail: https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289 > I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so,…

So yesterday I wrote about the blurring lines of ownership, and people came back with some fairly disparate responses. It's fair to say that I was mostly dismissed. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25058952 And this is why I won't be moving to Apple silicon. Apple already has the ability to restrict whats apps I can run (they can simply toggle a switch for all users to "no unsigned binaries"), and congrats! Apple…

> keyboard + trackpad alignment is wonky (it's off-center in a lot of cases! How weird is that???)

Those are laptops with numeric keypads, the trackpad is still centred relative to the "main area" of the keyboard (the home row and in particular the rest keys - the two keys with a little bump, F and J on a QWERTY) but it is off-centre relative to the body of the laptop due to the presence of the keypad.

Macs don't have numpads so if you've always used Macs it's understandable that you're not familiar with this type of layout.

In any case that type of placement makes no difference while you are using the laptop, because keys and touchpad are still where they are supposed to be relative to each other.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by ls65536 »

pgt wrote: post #390

A compelling way to enact change at large corporates is to vocally communicate when and why you are forced back into a buying position as a customer. Apple VPs who are listening, especially Craig Federighi - here is an early warning for you. The HN crowd may seem fringe, but they are living in the future. I de-Googled my entire life over similar transgressions by Google and several of my friends are gradually going t…

> The HN crowd may seem fringe, but they are living in the future.

The other thing that really can't be discounted here is that a lot of the HN crowd are likely the default go-to people in their circle of family and friends for this sort of stuff, and in many cases they may also have major purchasing influence and technical decision making power in their respective businesses. Turning off one of them may be inconsequential on its own in the short term, but it could seriously add up to a lot more destroyed mindshare and significantly more "lost" sales over time.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by LeifCarrotson »

nightowl_games wrote: post #556
areoform wrote: post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So yesterday I wrote about the blurring lines of ownership, and people came back with some fairly disparate responses. It's fair to say that I was mostly dismissed. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25058952 And this is why I won't be moving to Apple silicon. Apple already has the ability to restrict whats apps I can run (they can simply toggle a switch for all users to "no unsigned binaries"), and congrats! Apple…

Yeah so basically in the windows world, a lot of the good laptops are under the "business class" of the various manufacturers: Dell Precision, HP Elite Book, MSI Prestige In the consumer world the Dell XPS, Asus Zenbook, Asus Pro Art are the way to go for a designer. Dell Precision is probably the overall best laptop. MSI Prestige is targetted right at you though, with color accuracy and a good display. The only bran…

Lenovo Thinkpad is another popular line, seems conspicuously absent from your list. They're known to have good resale value, and to work well with Linux. If you're getting up to the Precision line, the Lenovo P series workstations are also worth considering, though given they're actually professional-grade machines with Xeon and Quadro parts they'll be more expensive than a Macbook Pro.

There are also boutiques like System76, that white label, upgrade, and manage driver compatibility for Clevo laptops which may be worth considering, they just came out with a new Lemur Pro like yesterday.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by areoform »

nightowl_games wrote: post #556
areoform wrote: post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So yesterday I wrote about the blurring lines of ownership, and people came back with some fairly disparate responses. It's fair to say that I was mostly dismissed. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25058952 And this is why I won't be moving to Apple silicon. Apple already has the ability to restrict whats apps I can run (they can simply toggle a switch for all users to "no unsigned binaries"), and congrats! Apple…

Yeah so basically in the windows world, a lot of the good laptops are under the "business class" of the various manufacturers: Dell Precision, HP Elite Book, MSI Prestige In the consumer world the Dell XPS, Asus Zenbook, Asus Pro Art are the way to go for a designer. Dell Precision is probably the overall best laptop. MSI Prestige is targetted right at you though, with color accuracy and a good display. The only bran…

Interestingly, Apple covers more than sRGB, their panels are now being set to the broader DCI-P3 gamut. Whereas these laptops (at least in 2019) were slightly less than the sRGB gamut on testing. Except for the surface book,

https://imgur.com/a/6dGz3LO

I got these results from, https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-Prestige-15-A10SC-Laptop-R...

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by areoform »

mastazi wrote: post #563
areoform wrote: post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So yesterday I wrote about the blurring lines of ownership, and people came back with some fairly disparate responses. It's fair to say that I was mostly dismissed. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25058952 And this is why I won't be moving to Apple silicon. Apple already has the ability to restrict whats apps I can run (they can simply toggle a switch for all users to "no unsigned binaries"), and congrats! Apple…

> keyboard + trackpad alignment is wonky (it's off-center in a lot of cases! How weird is that???) Those are laptops with numeric keypads, the trackpad is still centred relative to the "main area" of the keyboard (the home row and in particular the rest keys - the two keys with a little bump, F and J on a QWERTY) but it is off-centre relative to the body of the laptop due to the presence of the keypad. Macs don't hav…

I use my laptop on my lap, and usually when I sit with my hands folded in my lap, my hands fall along the center axis of my body. We are bilaterally symmetrical beings (with some internal asymmetries).

So unless I scoot the laptop off-axis or I have to move my hands off axis to type.

I'm unsure how this isn't unergonomic. It's not something to get used to. It's bad design. Period.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by burlesona »

vsskanth wrote: post #20
submeta wrote: post #2

Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago. Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail: https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289 > I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so,…

Can apple not use security certificates to verify publishers ? why does it need to go to their servers ?

It does go locally if you are not on wifi. I thought the issue was my slow internet so I turned off wifi and suddenly everything launched just fine.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by WillPostForFood »

mastazi wrote: post #563
areoform wrote: post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So yesterday I wrote about the blurring lines of ownership, and people came back with some fairly disparate responses. It's fair to say that I was mostly dismissed. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25058952 And this is why I won't be moving to Apple silicon. Apple already has the ability to restrict whats apps I can run (they can simply toggle a switch for all users to "no unsigned binaries"), and congrats! Apple…

> keyboard + trackpad alignment is wonky (it's off-center in a lot of cases! How weird is that???) Those are laptops with numeric keypads, the trackpad is still centred relative to the "main area" of the keyboard (the home row and in particular the rest keys - the two keys with a little bump, F and J on a QWERTY) but it is off-centre relative to the body of the laptop due to the presence of the keypad. Macs don't hav…

A lot of laptops, Dell for example, offset the touch pad to the left even though there is no keypad. You might be right that these are technically centered on the q to p span of the keyboard.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/De...

https://i.pcmag.com/imagery/reviews/05RhNkV9HnULG0LW4YRfKzZ-...

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