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Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Twitter has become the example of right vs left. I don't think this tweet "glorifies" violence, but my opinion doesn't matter, only Twitter's. That herein is the problem. It would be interesting if Trump left twitter and made the journalists follow him to some other platform.

It's perfectly okay that you hold the opinion that the tweet didn't glorify violence. Your opinion is objectively wrong, but you're allowed to hold it.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Twitter is well within the rights to do this, but I have seen tweets from blue check marks essentially calling for violence and Twitter didn't remove them. So, does that mean Twitter actually -supports- those view points now? If Twitter is going to police people, it needs to be across the board. Otherwise it's just a weird censorship that is targeting one person and can easily be seen as political. Everyone is applau…

Eh? Do you have any examples? This is nothing new, Twitter has been applying this standard to tweets for a very long time (it's part of their ToS!). It usually results in deleting your tweet or an outright ban. The only difference here is that they've kept the tweet up since they deem it to be in the public's interest.

Would the same happen if Theil owned Twitter, and fact checked, etc. Joe Biden? IMO we would see the opposite, and liberal politicians calling for Twitter to be taken down. One person's soap box is another's tabloid.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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No. This man holds the office of the POTUS. There are certain responsibilities that come with it. The officeholder cannot make deadly threats publicly and expect everyone to just shrug it off.

But does that responsibility extend to other members of Government, or just the President?

Can you distract people by asking this?

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Wait, Trump, the guy who had a platform plank complaining about his predecessors' use of executive orders as "power grabs" [0], actually issued an executive order about Twitter's TOS ? 0 - https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-10-19/trump-...

It's nothing new. Politics is a team based sport. My brother calls Obama "King Obama" but is still a huge fan of Trump. I've discussed some of this stuff with him: in his eyes, Obama did stuff he shouldn't have, so Trump can do stuff he shouldn't.

> I've discussed some of this stuff with him: in his eyes, Obama did stuff he shouldn't have, so Trump can do stuff he shouldn't.

This is a terrible line of thinking. I'm no Trump fan, but there's a ton of things neither Trump nor Obama should have done as president, and excusing one with the actions of another doesn't make a bad act good.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Hopefully they’ll just kick him and his acolytes off the platform. I’ve not met people so drunk on hero worship that they forgo facts and reason as I have when speaking with my trump supporting friends and family. And now he’s trying to sway elections by using misinformation? Openly using the pulpit of the highest office to spread patently false rumors? His fear mongering is harmful and has been violating Twitter’s terms for years but hey I guess it was good for business until recently... still good for them.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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What kind of utterly ridiculous policy is hiding posts for “glorifying violence?” So if I write a post about the Bangladeshi independence war, saying how great it was that we beat those damn Pakistanis, my post would get hidden?

Why is that ridiculous?

Because violence is one of the fundamental political and sociological forces in the world, and preventing people from talking about it in the abstract--as distinguished from targeted threats of violence to specific people--is completely off the reservation. As a Bangladeshi, I have a country because people like my uncle went to war and killed a bunch of Pakistanis. I bet Polish people are glad that Americans gunned down millions of Germans in the 1940s. Steven Spielberg's "Munich" was an amazing account of Operation Wrath of God--glorifying the assassination of terrorists that killed 11 members of Israel's 1972 Olympic team. Violence is often a proper subject of glorification.

In practice, I strongly suspect the Twitter isn't actually applying the policy as written. Instead, they're applying the policy selectively, based on ideological biases.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Eh? Do you have any examples? This is nothing new, Twitter has been applying this standard to tweets for a very long time (it's part of their ToS!). It usually results in deleting your tweet or an outright ban. The only difference here is that they've kept the tweet up since they deem it to be in the public's interest.

Would the same happen if Theil owned Twitter, and fact checked, etc. Joe Biden? IMO we would see the opposite, and liberal politicians calling for Twitter to be taken down. One person's soap box is another's tabloid.

Do you have any examples of liberal politicians calling for social media platforms to be taken down for fact checking or enforcing their terms of service? Simply saying "in my opinion they'd do the same thing" is not convincing.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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The issue is that the rules are being enforced selectively. Just this week Twitter fact checked Trump's opinion on mail voter fraud by linking to other experts' opinions. It seems more like a move to influence the election rather than enforcing the rules.

> The issue is that the rules are being enforced selectively. It's not only acceptable but actually ethically correct to hold those with more power to higher standards of responsibility. It's therefore not only acceptable but actually ethically correct to enforce these rules more proactively against the President of the United States than some Russian bot account.

There is no objective "ethically correct" anything.

You'll say one thing is "ethically correct", and someone else will say the exact opposite thing is "ethically correct".

Neither of you is right, and neither of you is wrong.

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