I know it's a pretty much lost cause but I am 100% willing to die on the hill of never buying a phone without a headphone jack, no compromises, so a sad hard pass on this one.
New iPhone SE
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Re: New iPhone SE
#562As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…
> Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable I think I'm in the minority, but I haven't really missed the headphone jack in my iPhone 11. I have the Echo earbuds, and those have been good to great for my use cases. This continues to feel a bit like the 3.5 floppy and CD-ROM removals from the Mac: a lot of people hated it, until it was a nonissue.
I don't think it's a good comparison for several reasons. 1) Those technologies were already not as heavily used when they were dropped. There are still tons of traditional headphones being manufactured and sold, even years after phones have started dropping them. 2) It's easy to leave an external drive at a desk for occasional use, it's much less convenient to carry a dongle everywhere since you likely want to use headphones on-the-go. 3) This is subjective, but floppy to cd-rom is clearly an upgrade, wireless to wired headphones is not. It adds syncing and battery life problems to an otherwise simple technology.
Re: New iPhone SE
#563Earlier quoted context omitted.
No Night Mode for the camera. It's disappointing that they're not enabling it, but I guess it's not surprising.
Why is it not surprising? The processor should definitely be up to the task. Just market segmentation? I'm not an Apple expert, but it does not seem like something they do.
I'm not surprised because it's the differentiating camera feature between the SE/XR and the 11. My friends and family that have Night Mode love it, but most don't care that much about multiple lenses. I too believe the SE is up to the task. Hopefully someday Apple will issue a software update that enables it.
Either way, I'm going to upgrade as the 1st gen SE camera is showing its age. Everything else about the 1st gen is still good enough for me.
Re: New iPhone SE
#564As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…
> Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable I think I'm in the minority, but I haven't really missed the headphone jack in my iPhone 11. I have the Echo earbuds, and those have been good to great for my use cases. This continues to feel a bit like the 3.5 floppy and CD-ROM removals from the Mac: a lot of people hated it, until it was a nonissue.
I realized I was not going to miss my headphone jack when I plugged in headphones and they didn’t work. Realized I hadn’t plugged in headphones for several months.
Re: New iPhone SE
#565eyes the specs eyes her 6s and the very nice earbuds that can still plug into it ponders other things she could do with $400 I miss the Actually Small form factor but I've gotten used to the slightly larger 6s and I sure don't miss it four hundred bucks plus the cost of some bluetooth earbuds and having to hassle with keeping the bluetooth Square reader powered up the next time I sell stuff at a comics con. I think t…
You also get tap payments with the Bluetooth square reader which is much more seamless of an experience for the customer.
You are forgetting the seam where it goes to sleep after a while when it’s not being used every few minutes, and needs to be reconnected while the customer is waiting. In a crowded convention hall full of thousands of other vendors doing the same thing.
Oh, and the seam where if you do get it to connect to your phone, you then have both your phone and the customer’s phone fighting to get a connection to a tower saturated by people sharing their con photos/videos, streaming, and trying to process credit card transactions. It’s bad enough with one phone trying to authorize the transaction.
Also the seam where it’s one more damn thing to run out of power when you are at a table with nowhere to plug in because you are not gonna be moving enough stuff to be worth paying a couple hundred extra for the power fees unless you are a small press with the work of a dozen or so creators on your table.
Re: New iPhone SE
#566I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…
I'm with you on the size, which is why I still have the SE myself.
It also bugs me that no one is showing a comparison of the new SE to the old SE, so here is an old article I found, 2nd photo is the 7 (5.5 in), 6 (4.7 in == new SE), and old SE (4 in).
https://www.imore.com/iphone-6s-vs-iphone-se-whats-different...
So the new SE is bigger, but still acceptably small for most people. It seems like Apple couldn't bring themselves to make it any smaller. And at this price with these features, it will be my next upgrade (in 2-3 years), and I predict it will sell like hot-cakes.
Re: New iPhone SE
#567eyes the specs eyes her 6s and the very nice earbuds that can still plug into it ponders other things she could do with $400 I miss the Actually Small form factor but I've gotten used to the slightly larger 6s and I sure don't miss it four hundred bucks plus the cost of some bluetooth earbuds and having to hassle with keeping the bluetooth Square reader powered up the next time I sell stuff at a comics con. I think t…
I moved from a 6 to an 8 last fall. The newer processors, especially the jump with the 7, make HUGE performance improvements in every day tasks like loading emails, maps and web pages. I can imagine with this having a few generations newer than the 8 that you’d see even better performance.
It may feel like we’ve reached the point where mobile CPU performance shouldn’t matter, but I notice quite a bit less time spent waiting with the newer phones, which helps in not spending as much time on them.
Re: New iPhone SE
#568I know it's a pretty much lost cause but I am 100% willing to die on the hill of never buying a phone without a headphone jack, no compromises, so a sad hard pass on this one.
Same boat as you, switched to android last year, atleast i will always have options in this side of the market.
Re: New iPhone SE
#569Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's still viable for most people. Most people will be okay with the included pair of wired headphones.
I use my EarPods with headphone plug on a number of devices. The one with the Lightning connector is only useable with Apple devices, so this is again a vendor lockin. This has to stop.
I just bought a few lighting-to-3.5mm adapters and leave them permanently affixed to my various headphones. Seems like a simple fix, versus perpetually being upset that I can't use my headphones on my iPhone.
Re: New iPhone SE
#570I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…
I'm with you on the size, which is why I still have the SE myself. It also bugs me that no one is showing a comparison of the new SE to the old SE, so here is an old article I found, 2nd photo is the 7 (5.5 in), 6 (4.7 in == new SE), and old SE (4 in). https://www.imore.com/iphone-6s-vs-iphone-se-whats-different... So the new SE is bigger, but still acceptably small for most people. It seems like Apple couldn't bring…
> So the new SE is bigger
You can fit a bigger screen into the same space with the bezels removed. There is no compelling reason to have a 4.7" screen when a 5.something" can fit in the same form factor.