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Post by mark-r »

stiray wrote: post #521
mark-r wrote: post #496

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The post you're replying to suggests that an independent LTE connection will be bundled into every device, so that none of the interventions you've listed will work. Good luck maintaining your bubble.

Sorry, but this is the device I will not buy. The tv I have bought was a mistake, it is my last smarttv, next one will be a monitor. Anyway, why would companies bother to install LTE module, when 99.999% of people will just plug the device to the internet? It would be hugely inefficient. This just wont happen. I have seen chips beeing replaced by another ones due to be 50 cents expensier (and hugely more capable) and…

When the value of the data they mine from you becomes worth more than the incremental cost, it will become ubiquitous and you won't have a choice.

Adding RF insulation in your walls might be effective, but I think you will come to regret not being able to get or make phone calls in your home.

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Post by pabs3 »

ssss11 wrote: post #509

To those in this thread denouncing these dystopian times my question to you is, how do we as technologists create a meaningful and successful career changing this? I’ve been against this for a very long time and can’t see any easy way to contribute (and also provide $ for my family) short of being in government policy making or law making which would require substantial career changes and further education and then s…

Support organisations that are trying to create and preserve software freedom (FSF, Conservancy, CCC etc) using your existing job.

Join communities where people reverse engineer the devices they own, work out how to modify the firmware and write Free Software replacements. Then buy devices second-hand, replace the firmware with free equivalents, resell the devices and use the profits to enable more reverse engineering work.

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Post by lilyball »

jononor wrote: post #392
jp555 wrote: post #386

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But is individual data worth that much? I mean isn’t “my” Facebook data is worth less than $0.20US/year?

Facebook had 20 USD per active user revenue in 2018. So it is somehow worth more than that.

User revenue isn’t the same thing as what the user data is worth. What would their revenue be if they did nothing more than IP geolocation ads without any other user data?

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Post by amiga-workbench »

dwighttk wrote: post #558
stevewillows wrote: post #489

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A guy in /r/buyitforlife posted a palm pilot (Tungsten C), and it got me thinking about heading back down this road (further than I already have.) For portable audio, I'm using a souped-up iPod video. I'm thinking 2020 will be the year where I take another step in this offline direction -- at least with hardware.

I had bad luck with iPod hard drives... I’m surprised you’re is still working, or was there an SSD video iPod that I’m forgetting?

You can easily retrofit flash memory into at least some of the older iPods.

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Post by toss1 »

Crosseye_Jack wrote: post #271
buddylw wrote: post #165

I'm getting ready to go full Battlestar Galactica in all of my appliances. It's now difficult to find high end washers and ovens without these features. At least right now we can choose not to connect the devices, but what happens if iot LTE connections get cheap enough that the choice is removed altogether, like with Tesla and other high end modern cars? I don't think I'm just being a Luddite. This really seems like…

>what happens if iot LTE connections get cheap enough that the choice is removed altogether. Narrowband IoT is the target market for that. T-Mobile has a plan where a certified module costs $5 (There is a min order to get that price, but for a large vendor that's not going to be an issue) then $6 p/year as long as you can keep below 12MB per year. But you can keep bw down by shipping the fingerprinting software with…

Additional requirement for modern media room:

Faraday Cage

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Post by ben1040 »

dwighttk wrote: post #558
stevewillows wrote: post #489

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A guy in /r/buyitforlife posted a palm pilot (Tungsten C), and it got me thinking about heading back down this road (further than I already have.) For portable audio, I'm using a souped-up iPod video. I'm thinking 2020 will be the year where I take another step in this offline direction -- at least with hardware.

I had bad luck with iPod hard drives... I’m surprised you’re is still working, or was there an SSD video iPod that I’m forgetting?

I assume by “souped up” they mean they modded it. You can go onto Amazon and get adapters to retrofit HDD-based iPods with flash, and a replacement battery too as long as you’re cracking it open.

I did this with an old 5G video iPod and it was a 15 minute job. Worked better than new because there wasn’t the lag in switching songs from waiting for the HDD to spin up.

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Post by chii »

devdas wrote: post #397
3fe9a03ccd14ca5 wrote: post #66

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Maybe bring them to your island and secretly record them doing something illegal?

Then you'll just be suicided in a cell.

have a handy note always tucked away into your body saying you are not a suicide risk, and don't intend to do so.

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Post by mirimir »

setpatchaddress wrote: post #544
maksimum wrote: post #478

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> We've lost this battle. I think you could look at the battle/war from a different perspectives, and come up with different conclusions. In the mainstream (whatever that is?) it appears that convenience wins. And hardware/software vendors seem to make the assumption that customers won't complain if their data is harvested. I think that's where you're coming from? On the (privacy) enthusiast things, the horizon looks…

Dumb TVs are not available anymore. I would gladly buy one with decent image quality if such existed.

So just buy a large display. And sit closer.

Also makes it easier to watch DVDs and torrented stuff.

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Post by trashface »

hvindin wrote: post #372
kowbell wrote: post #339

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I had an S5 too, and actually still have it in case I ever need a backup (e.g. last week when _my_ Pixel started getting caught in an infinite boot loop!) Though I hadn't noticed the S5 being destroyed by software updates - the only reason I stopped using it is because they stopped updating it and it was locked from custom ROMs, which was a sad conclusion because it had still decent hardware. Could you elaborate on t…

My personal S5 experience leads me to believe that there was some trickery afoot from Samsung's end. When I realised that my S5 was starting to get a little bit dodgy (having owned it from April 2011 until around December 2018) I went and bought 8 of them. Surprisingly, they were still available for purchase on the Samsung website over 7 years after they were originally released, although they quickly ran out of stoc…

Anecdata, but my S5 is still working after...6-7 years I guess. My brother also has one and his works. My charging port broke so I have to remove the battery to charge it, but I have three batteries that I rotate between so this isn't a big deal. However it hasn't received a software update since 2017 (I am on T Mobile), so there are probably all kinds of security issues lurking.

It will, however, be the last Samsung phone I buy.

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Post by johntash »

buddylw wrote: post #165

I'm getting ready to go full Battlestar Galactica in all of my appliances. It's now difficult to find high end washers and ovens without these features. At least right now we can choose not to connect the devices, but what happens if iot LTE connections get cheap enough that the choice is removed altogether, like with Tesla and other high end modern cars? I don't think I'm just being a Luddite. This really seems like…

I have a cpap machine that uses LTE (or some sort of mobile data). I had no idea that it would automatically upload my data until I logged in to their portal one day and saw a bunch of stats before realizing "Hey.. I never gave that thing my wifi information" and looked it up.
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