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Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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I'm astonished and pleased to see they walked back the two worst things about the original Touch Bar MBPs - the lack of a physical Escape key, and the full-size left and right arrow keys. The lack of physical function keys remains regrettable, and the Touch Bar is still no worthy substitute, but perhaps this is a sign that Apple is finally interested in listening to feedback from its long-term customer base, even if…

It took 3 years for Apple to quietly acknowledge those mistakes.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#562

Why is the touchbar still a thing. I hit the speaker button inadvertently at least once a day. "Pop!"

Did you know you can rearrange the buttons for the touchbar? System Preferences -> Keyboard -> Customise Control Strip.

My bugbear was hitting the siri button by mistake, I swapped that for a 'do not disturb' button which is harmless when pressed.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#563
for whatever reason wishing for anything different always gets downvotes for Apple.

I like the changes. I wish they would target weight next. 2kg is nearly twice as heavy as the same size LG Gram and 33% heavier than then 17" LG Geam.

No, I don't want an LG Gram but I would love a lighter 16" MacBook Pro.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#564
Boy, every new Apple laptop release people harp endlessly about the cost.

Look, people, Apple high-end laptops generally cost $3-4K. And if you think that's high, you're forgetting that (in many of our cases) you're running your whole business on that.

$3-4K every couple of years should be in the noise. Cost relative to other laptops has little meaning, if you want high-end Apple gear.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#565

While it's nice to see an opinionated company like Apple admit fault and revert to what people want, I wonder if this move is too late for many of those that decided to move away from Apple? Years ago, I switched to a Surface Book, and while I'm tempted to go back for this MBP I reckon that a Surface Book update would be enough to kill any desire for the Mac range. While Apple stagnated, many of the high-end manufact…

Doubt it. For devs there still isn't a great alternative. No one has the build quality of Apple and the XPS has been disappointing. Can't speak much for other pros but I'd imagine that they held off on an upgrade rather than switch to a new manufacturer. Apple's branding helps here.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#566

While it's nice to see an opinionated company like Apple admit fault and revert to what people want, I wonder if this move is too late for many of those that decided to move away from Apple? Years ago, I switched to a Surface Book, and while I'm tempted to go back for this MBP I reckon that a Surface Book update would be enough to kill any desire for the Mac range. While Apple stagnated, many of the high-end manufact…

Of course not. The people who complain on HN and switch to the “windows subsystem for linux” are a fringe minority. The rest of the industry is still jamming on a Mac.

You seem to be living in an all apple bubble. MBP share is tiny when compared to windows laptops.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#567
The line about the “Apple-designed rubber dome” sticks out. Why even say that? Did Apple not design the other bits? My sympathy for whomever over there is trying to navigate the whole keyboard situation and messaging.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#569

Don't forget that the Touch Bar costs an additional $400 for consumers. The 2015 model was the best MacBook Pro. Perhaps the best laptop yet.

My personal Macbook Pro is from 2014 and I actually like it better than my 2015 for work. Apple switched from NVIDIA to AMD graphics cards in 2015 and it seems to have had a huge thermal impact. The fans on my work machine run at full speed constantly whenever I plug in an external monitor, but I almost never hear them on my personal machine.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

#570

I'm thrilled that they've rolled back some of the worst post-2015 MBP changes. I'm a vim user, so I was never going to switch to something without a physical escape key. The key travel on the new machines were terrible; it's like typing on a piece of glass. Most importantly -- regardless of whether or not I have an external keyboard plugged in (sometimes I do, right now I don't) -- an internal keyboard needs to be re…

As a fellow vim user, I highly recommend mapping caps lock to escape anyway. It's a huge game changer whether you have a physical escape key or not.
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