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Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by michaelbrooks »

Vinnl wrote: post #555
Jaruzel wrote: post #542

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Have you met any Vegans? There is no way they'd accept being lumped into a larger 'Vegetarian' demographic. One thing about Vegans is, is that they are not shy about telling you what they are.

That's an old stereotype that is certainly not true for the vegans I know - which are pretty many by now, most of whom have gone vegan in the past few years.

There's still a lot of toxicity in the vegan community. Just yesterday I read an article about how a vegan started eating meat and fish. The vegan community found out and started bullying her for it. [0]

[0] https://www.thedailybeast.com/vegan-youtube-is-imploding-as-...

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by Dylan16807 »

Doxin wrote: post #560
Dylan16807 wrote: post #449

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It's not very obvious that it's supposed to stand for more than one letter. Is it less confusing to do this way than to say "vegetarian" since that includes vegans?

Vegetarian does not include vegan. The set of things vegans don't eat is strictly larger than the set of things vegetatians don't eat.

The restrictions are a strict superset, so the group members are a strict subset.

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by Dylan16807 »

michaelbrooks wrote: post #561
Vinnl wrote: post #555

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an old stereotype that is certainly not true for the vegans I know - which are pretty many by now, most of whom have gone vegan in the past few years.

There's still a lot of toxicity in the vegan community. Just yesterday I read an article about how a vegan started eating meat and fish. The vegan community found out and started bullying her for it. [0] [0] https://www.thedailybeast.com/vegan-youtube-is-imploding-as-...

She was making all her money off videos about being a vegan. She deserved plenty of fish emojis for the deception. It wasn't about a diet change.

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by Vinnl »

michaelbrooks wrote: post #561
Vinnl wrote: post #555

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an old stereotype that is certainly not true for the vegans I know - which are pretty many by now, most of whom have gone vegan in the past few years.

There's still a lot of toxicity in the vegan community. Just yesterday I read an article about how a vegan started eating meat and fish. The vegan community found out and started bullying her for it. [0] [0] https://www.thedailybeast.com/vegan-youtube-is-imploding-as-...

That might be true for a specific community of vegans that explicitly seek each other out (see sibling comment), but that's hardly relevant for considering whether to group them together with vegetarians when a comment applies to both of them on HN.

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by random878 »

michaelbrooks wrote: post #561
Vinnl wrote: post #555

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an old stereotype that is certainly not true for the vegans I know - which are pretty many by now, most of whom have gone vegan in the past few years.

There's still a lot of toxicity in the vegan community. Just yesterday I read an article about how a vegan started eating meat and fish. The vegan community found out and started bullying her for it. [0] [0] https://www.thedailybeast.com/vegan-youtube-is-imploding-as-...

That's backlash against a fake youtube shill, not specifically about someone giving up a vegan diet.

Same reaction would occur for any vocal activist caught doing the antithesis of what they preach.

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by random878 »

Jaruzel wrote: post #542
Dylan16807 wrote: post #449

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not very obvious that it's supposed to stand for more than one letter. Is it less confusing to do this way than to say "vegetarian" since that includes vegans?

Have you met any Vegans? There is no way they'd accept being lumped into a larger 'Vegetarian' demographic. One thing about Vegans is, is that they are not shy about telling you what they are.

This is just a made up stereotype. They only place you see this trend is in angsty teens or Reddit users who tend to be vocally hormonal about anything.

I have met far more people who tell me cliches about vegans than I have vegans who tell me they're vegan.

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by random878 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #530
Not_a_pizza wrote: post #369

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The irony is that most people have given up on Burger King because of the poor dietary selection. In the breakfast menu, there is almost nothing to eat that is not high cholesterol and/or fattening. If Burger King manages to leverage this new item effectively, they could assist in saving the lives of the same people that they are helping to make piss poor life choices with.

> The irony is that most people have given up on Burger King because of the poor dietary selection. [citation needed]

It's quite clear the OP is speaking in an anecdotal manner.

The use of [citation needed] is one of the most infuriating, passive-aggressive internet trends perpetrated by people who clearly don't understand the point of citations [1].

[1] citation not required

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by tialaramex »

patothon wrote: post #524
mratzloff wrote: post #301

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As a vegetarian and former meat eater, I've had an "impossible taco" a couple of times. I don't want or crave meat, but they tasted very good. However, the texture totally weirded me out and both times I checked more than once to make sure they didn't accidentally serve me meat. I would wager a meat eater wouldn't know the difference if they were accidentally served these vegetarian tacos instead of beef.

I eat meat and occasionally eat impossible burgers to reduce my meat consumption, and you can definitely tell. Just not as good.

Yeah, the place in Brixton that sells these has made a big deal every time I've eaten there about how hey, this doesn't have meat in it, and I'm like "I know, believe me, if you made burgers with meat that were like this I would never eat here again". It's passable, but it is not good. Like you I'm conscious of the need to consume less meat, and these burgers are a step, but let's hope this isn't the destination. They've taken the "veggie burger" from "actually I've changed my mind, I'm not hungry after all" to reluctant acceptance.

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by random878 »

ma2rten wrote: post #453
darkpuma wrote: post #136

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No way they could prepare it on the grill, unless they had a dedicated grill for it. Sharing the grill with real burgers would mean tons of meat grease contaminating the veggie burgers. They're probably unwilling to dedicate the kitchen space for a vegetarian grill, so the microwave is the obvious choice. Microwaves won't cross-contaminate like a greasy grill will, and are already in the kitchen so the financial risk…

Many vegetarians/vegans don't mind cross .termination. Also, many fastfood places do have dedicated grills for vegan/vegetarian burgers, like for example McDonalds in the UK.

> Many vegetarians/vegans don't mind cross .termination.

Massively wrong. Most are easy going regarding using the same cutlery, pots, pan, etc (only ones I've met who aren't happen to be Indian mums or super strict vegans).

However... cooking up on the same griddle? Yeah, that's something most veggies and vegans I know who be very unhappy about.

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by rorykoehler »

Doxin wrote: post #559
rorykoehler wrote: post #545

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Isn't it illegal to sell people food that doesn't contain what is advertised?

Presumably the video is either faked or (more charitably) the customers were asked if they would like to try this new recipe. No lying going on in that last case.

Certainly viewed like it was made for /r/hailcorporate, complete with authentic f bombs and all.
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