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Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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That NEC display is nearly 4 feet long. I am thinking the same width as a full size keyboard so on the order of 15 - 18". 1920 x 480 would be ok for a display that was 18" wide and 4" tall. Although I'd prefer it be 3450 x 768 (192 dpi)

Not sure if you'll make it back to this thread, but I found the other (much more interesting) manufacturer of bar-type displays: LiteMax and their spanpixel line of panels: http://www.litemax.com/en/product/category/Spanpixel/22 I see smaller (15 and 19 inch) displays as well as the "smart shelf" displays. Here is a 3840x536 display @ 43.5", which is the one I am interested in: http://www.litemax.com/en/product/Spanp…

The Spanpixel ones are exactly what I was looking for! Now to try and figure out how to get them, I see that Avnet is a rep for them so perhaps they will be able to help me out.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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That looks pretty awesome, and it makes the iMac seem even more tired which I assume was intended. It is startling to have a story about IBM extolling the virtues of Macbooks for business and Microsoft launching a platform targeting designers, it really is amazing. But setting all of that aside for a moment.... The screen. Clearly that is the thing which makes this announcement. For me, the 3:2 aspect ratio is so mor…

"The screen. Clearly that is the thing which makes this announcement. For me, the 3:2 aspect ratio is so more reasonable for computers than 16:9. And having a zillion pixels is wonderful although my CAD package (TurboCAD) still doesn't deal well with the high DPI screen off the Surface Book, I'm sure it would look silly on this machine." It may interest you to know that there is a reasonably priced 1:1 aspect ratio m…

Why not just tape over the sides of a normal monitor?

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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"The screen. Clearly that is the thing which makes this announcement. For me, the 3:2 aspect ratio is so more reasonable for computers than 16:9. And having a zillion pixels is wonderful although my CAD package (TurboCAD) still doesn't deal well with the high DPI screen off the Surface Book, I'm sure it would look silly on this machine." It may interest you to know that there is a reasonably priced 1:1 aspect ratio m…

That is pretty cool. Oddly enough something I've been thinking about would be a high dpi "ribbon" screen, something that is perhaps 14 - 16" wide by 3 - 4" tall. To sit just behind my nice mechanical keyboard. That screen would have application specific tool bars with large icons and easy to tweak controls (sliders, buttons, etc). That would allow me to give over my "big" display to the project workspace, whether it…

The new MacBook Pro has something similar to this, except it looks like it's less than 1 inch tall:

https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/27/return-of-the-mac/

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Think about it - 1 or 2 TB hybrid drive ? Do you think very small spinning drives come in that size? and would they pay for custom gear vs just going with an SSD (which can also be custom sized too don't forget)? Microsoft has a lot of money, but I'm not sure that's where they should spend their money. An SSD in m.2 size is expensive, but less expensive than getting all custom gear. This is about thinking things thro…

... But that's precisely what a hybrid drive can be, except with more work to make it so the user doesn't have to juggle things by hand... I am no longer a professional (as in, primary income) photographer, but I was and trying to keep all my work on the "right" drive was about as fun as weddings. Btw sorry I said 2.5gb but that was mobile correcting 2.5in.

And what I'm trying to say is that SSD's are so cheap now that for the lower spec (1TB) of the surface studio, you no longer need to juggle space in order to far exceed the performance of a hybrid drive, even with a last gen SSD. SSD of any modern kind >> hybrid drive in performance.

I'm not arguing for abstract systems, but for that specific build that Microsoft has put together - in that form factor, a hybrid drive takes up too much space and they are not offering 3TB+ versions where the hybrid drive would excel.

I'm criticizing that specific assembly of parts.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you should be able to loopback-mount a "proper" file system (e.g. ext4) from a file on NTFS, and then you'll have no limits other than what ext4 imposes. Of course, you then lose easy interop with the filesystem from Windows side, but that is the inherent trade-off here.

WSL doesn't actually run a Linux kernel; it emulates the syscalls and process environment Linux offers and provides a binary loader. It's WINE in reverse. So there's no ext4 driver, and no concept of loopback mounts.

Ah, indeed (although it's not quite WINE in reverse, since WINE emulates userspace calls, not kernel syscalls).

I see that there's considerable demand for this exact thing in their bug tracker already. If they go for a low-hanging fruit here, it'd be FUSE support - and that should give us ext2, at least.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Not sure if you'll make it back to this thread, but I found the other (much more interesting) manufacturer of bar-type displays: LiteMax and their spanpixel line of panels: http://www.litemax.com/en/product/category/Spanpixel/22 I see smaller (15 and 19 inch) displays as well as the "smart shelf" displays. Here is a 3840x536 display @ 43.5", which is the one I am interested in: http://www.litemax.com/en/product/Spanp…

The Spanpixel ones are exactly what I was looking for! Now to try and figure out how to get them, I see that Avnet is a rep for them so perhaps they will be able to help me out.

They don't look cheap ...

Glad I could help :)

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Then sell the screen itself. Why chain it to mediocre, non-upgradeable hardware?

If they were to, would you buy it?

Honestly, I would in a heartbeat. I mean, I guess it depends on price but yeah, I totally would.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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The Spanpixel ones are exactly what I was looking for! Now to try and figure out how to get them, I see that Avnet is a rep for them so perhaps they will be able to help me out.

They don't look cheap ... Glad I could help :)

Sure, but if you can make a prototype and develop a kickstarter that goes way over its funding goal, then you can either negotiate a better price, or other manufacturers will come out of the woodwork to serve you because there is a huge overcapacity glut on LCD glass.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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MS is definitely taking the steps in the hardware department that Apple has been lagging behind on. But I still feel Windows itself is not a productive OS. I'm big on keyboard shortcuts but MS is very much mouse based. Being required to use my pinky to try and hit CTRL instead of my thumb to hit COMMAND to do simple things like copy and paste is HUGE to me. I didn't use a Windows machine for 3 years and when I did ne…

I am using company provide rMBP for 2 years and I like to linux like terminal/bash, but otherwise I can't find any reason it is so revered. Multi monitor support sucks so bad, I have to wiggle mouse few seconds at bottom of monitor before it is taken as active, but boy popup of active window still opens on 2nd monitor. I minimize Firefox it goes down in Dock, now when I press Cmd+Tab, Firefox is in the applications l…

re: dialog boxes Space key to the rescue!

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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post #566

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They don't look cheap ... Glad I could help :)

Sure, but if you can make a prototype and develop a kickstarter that goes way over its funding goal, then you can either negotiate a better price, or other manufacturers will come out of the woodwork to serve you because there is a huge overcapacity glut on LCD glass.

Also, not sure if you saw this (I didn't, at first) ... if you look at the top text on:

http://www.litemax.com/en/product/category/Resizing%20LCD/22

it appears that they are cutting up existing LCD panels up to make these screens ...

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