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Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by Lukas_Skywalker »

saturn8601 wrote: post #449
VCFundedGenYer wrote: post #347

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, the Zune actually was a better media player than the ipod in almost every way. That wasn't a false statement. The issue was the abysmal marketing and "me too" attitude Microsoft had (and still has).

I recall reading this story of some user doing a sync with Zune on their new computer. The computer had no songs on it and the Zune synced with that machine and wiped all the existing music off his Zune without warning him(or something like that its been years). I recall thinking, yep thats Microsoft. And to this day I still encounter dumb ways of thinking in many of their products. The endless negative stories I hea…

I did the same when I tried to copy a friends music from his iPod to my iTunes library. Wiped his iPod instead. I think we have a tie there...

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by fooster »

amelius wrote: post #548
alluro2 wrote: post #525

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

Apple should just switch to making servers instead.

Ok, what am I using on my workstations then? Windows? Hell no. Terrible hardware, OS sucks. Linux? Hell no! Terrible hardware, desktop is terrible.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by meowface »

adventured wrote: post #490
derwiki wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reading Infinite Games, they tell an anecdote about a Microsoft exec on a flight telling an Apple exec that the Zune was a way better portable music player than the iPod. The Apple exec was just “yup, you’re probably right” and then soon after the iPhone dropped

The anecdote is likely a false rip of the actual story: [2017] Speaking at an event Tuesday, Scott Forstall, who lead Apple's iOS software division under Jobs, recounted the surprising history behind the company's first touchscreen prototype, which ultimately lead to the first iPhone. It all began, Forstall said, because Jobs had an acquaintance at Microsoft who he really, really, didn't like. "It began because Steve…

Spite cam actually be one of the most powerful motivators for productivity, in my own experience. I can buy this story being accurate.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by abroszka33 »

dcow wrote: post #534
alluro2 wrote: post #525

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

Can you characterize the deterioration more specifically? I only ask because every time I run this exercise for myself I end up back on macOS, despite any hiccups.

Not OP, but I have been using an M1 pro Mac Book since release. It's not sluggish in any way whatsoever.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by acroback »

alluro2 wrote: post #525

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

My 16" M1 Pro MacBook with 32 Gigs of RAM is still going strong. Not going to upgrade till this thing dies.

I can ride this puppy for the next 10 years. Say what you will about Apple but their hardware is top notch and it is a great value if you can snag some OG hardware in M series.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by manmal »

theshrike79 wrote: post #522
ActorNightly wrote: post #453

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question - why are you so stuck on Macs for local inference? A 4 GPU linux box with 3090s, which are $1500 a piece right now, will blow this thing out of the water. Even 2x3090 rig will run most of the good local models like Gemma4:31b at 100+ tok/sec The VRAM of the GPUs are MUCH faster than the unified ram within Apple Silicon. The only difference is the initial model load, which takes longer from disk to VR…

A Mac mini running an LLM is quiet A PC with similar capabilities is going to sound like a jet taking off.

A Mac Mini is easy to match by a PC in terms of inference, and the PC will win without getting noisy.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by w0m »

acroback wrote: post #555
alluro2 wrote: post #525

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

My 16" M1 Pro MacBook with 32 Gigs of RAM is still going strong. Not going to upgrade till this thing dies. I can ride this puppy for the next 10 years. Say what you will about Apple but their hardware is top notch and it is a great value if you can snag some OG hardware in M series.

I ran my ~2011 i7 MBA for 12 years as primary laptop before the battery finally killed it (had to run linux on it due to apple killing support the last few years).

Great hardware. I don't miss OSX though.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by bsagdiyev »

AbsurdCensor wrote: post #265
Axsuul wrote: post #172

Can anyone recommend the perfect sweet spot for someone who wants to run their own inference?

For me it's be Strix Halo, 128gb machine, especially running Qwen models. Except when I bought it, it was $1,900, now it's $4,600 for the same box. (Wow that's insane) For tinkering and learning, it's been great. Tie it into something like Hermes and you have a pretty powerful AI assistant in a box. And when you need to step up your model, you just do something like OpenRouter and it makes it pretty easy.

Seconded. I just got a Strix Halo box a few months back and it is great. Does everything I need it to.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by ycombinatrix »

alluro2 wrote: post #525

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

How did it become sluggish?

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by TheRealPomax »

recursivedoubts wrote: post #34

Even w/the pricing spike, inflation adjusted we are back to roughly the prices of a new Mac SE/30 for something that can beat a turing test w/o sweating. I yield the floor to no one when it comes to pessimism, but that's incredible.

There is nothing special about making a computer that's unaffordable, irrespective of whether it's 2026 or 1989. If anything, it just shows how little they're trying.
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