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Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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This is of course beyond stupid considering the pace of 3d printer vs one PET bottle blow molding machine that can produce same shape shells at thousand units /hour.

But blow moulding machines big enough to make a drone shell are massive. If you had suggested a more portable technology like vacuum forming maybe you would have a point, but blow moulding is definitely one of the more expensive and least portable ways of forming plastic.

Massive is subjective, you can fit 10 packed or 5 set-up and running machines in one container https://cntaiso.en.made-in-china.com/product/iXYEPnyvhsUl/Ch...

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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The worst part of the CCP is it's hatred for free speech https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jul/16/hong-kong-book... Five arrested in Hong Kong bookstore raids in ‘seditious’ materials crackdown Third round of arrests linked to independent bookshops widely regarded as clampdown on dissent in territory

If that's the "worst part" about them, reacting like that to sedition plans, it sounds quite tame. It's not like people elsewhere, cough , are not arrested for protesting against the bombing in Palestine or against ICE. Or, on the other side of the pond (and on the other side of the political spectrum), for tweeting against illegal immigration to their country. Or in Germany for merely calling the chancellor an idiot…

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Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Not everyone wants public transport. I never use it. Don’t like being so close to other people. And it is much more expensive where I live. Four friends going for a day trip to the big city is €120+ by train and bus. Had another look. It’s €265 just for the four train tickets alone, in the lowest class. €375 if you want to travel in comfort class. Two hour journey.

You could imagine that this wasn’t the case, right? Or you could imagine that investing in it for those people who do want it might improve your own life (e.g. by reducing traffic) not to mention society as a whole?

I just look at what the most efficient form of transport is for the trip I’m taking. And the answer is never public transit.

Don’t really mind or care what other people do.

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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I’ve owned a lot of Gopro cameras, having done video capture for a variety of motorsports, and they just got too expensive for what you get. You can be more expensive if you’re better, or you can be worse if you’re cheaper, but they’re both the downsides while living purely off brand recognition. They also blew up in a time where there wasn’t any real competition. Sony had action cameras but they were bulkier and exp…

GoPro is a US company designed in U.S. with manufacturing in Thailand, China, and Mexico. Insta360 is a Chinese company designed in Shenzhen and built there, too. People think this doesn’t matter, but GoPros are used all over in aerospace. If we replaced the brand with Insta360, that puts a big attack vector all over the place. A similar pattern happened with drones with DJI, intentionally killing all non-Chinese dro…

I'm not sure what attack vectors are there if you don't connect your camera to company wifi, I guess it could technically put a payload on SD card but... eh ?

> When China wants to deindustrialize non-Chinese industries for strategic and/or natsec reasons, they are incredibly good at it. (And note it’s not US-only, China targets basically ANY brand that isn’t Chinese. China absolutely does this to Europe as well… and you can see them doing it in real-time with automotive.)

First, Gopros are made and assembled in China (with I think some in Mexico now to avoid tariffs). And absolutely nothing stops them from just sending potentially malicious firmware to the non-china made ones too

Second China didn't make Gopros fucking overheat, shoddy engineering did. They rested on their laurels while competition worked hard on making better product. If it was just production costs the top end GoPros would be the best in the niche, just more expensive, but no they are both more expensive and worse product.

Third, it is not "Chinese govt. doing it" (tho they are certainly helping), it is west constantly sending their tech advantage away just to get some cheap production there. Whether directly like Apple or Tesla, or indirectly, by allowing chinese capital to buy western car companies and instantly get all the tech then just apply their more integrated production to make same stuff cheaper.

West gave China their advantage willingly, for a short term profits, and continue to do so, then try to mask it as some kind of malicious push (not saying it isn't happening, just saying the western companies are complicit in it) rather than corporate greed ruining everything yet again.

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Was just about to say Roomba too! Next up IMO is Philips Hue, which don't support Matter and cost $25, vs. Matter-enabled Amazon brands that cost $7.

IKEA is winning here rather than a Chinese brand.

Yeah I'm sure they are putting swedish wifi chips there and not chinese /s

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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It’s the classic situation. China can outcompete all this stuff. It doesn’t really matter. Roomba, GoPro, they’re all going to be crushed by Chinese manufacturers. You just can’t get the margins to work anywhere else and if you do the R&D you’re a sucker. I’ve had a few GoPros and a few GoPro 360s. I also had Roombas so you can blame me as the brand killer.

Bad examples. Roomba and GoPro failed to their own complacency while competition jumped over them.

Car industry is better example, west tech export just to get cheaper prices fueled the growth of local companies that then outcompeted the west by just industrial might.

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Are you serious? Who is killing thousands abroad and playing corrupt mobster mister policeman in the entire world? Or course China is supporting Russia. It's geopolitics. The west needs enlargement of their influence in Ukraine. Russia doesn't like this. A failing Russia means China is next. Hard to understand? And China does have universal affordable healthcare. Maybe, just maybe you should visit one of the large ci…

>The west needs enlargement of their influence in Ukraine Okay so you have swallowed the Russia and China propaganda fully. Yes, China has better living conditions now than 20 years ago. Ukraine is its own country since 1991 and on their own want to move closer to the west, NATO and EU. Russia invaded Ukraine as Putin is the one who want "enlargement of their influence" If you think above, how can you blame me in the…

Ukraine is not an independent country. The entire culture is practically similar to the Russian one. Yes I have lived in Ukraine (Melitopol) for many years. This whole conflict is 100% caused by the west that tries to put a wig between the two nations. By bribing and buying up assets in Ukraine. Starting from around 2012 when western institutions installing puppets in various places. Government and commercial. Don't tell me this is somekind of crap conspiracy. We all know that the west performed these actions many times before. The west is not clean in this war. 100% responsible for this war, killings and destruction .

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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> CCP as it's now was created after reforms by Deng. Their policies changed, so they're no longer responsible for their own history?

I don't think most folks I know in the US are willing to touch the historical wrongs (genocide and slavery) with a 3.048M pole.

> I don't think most folks I know in the US are willing to touch the historical wrongs (genocide and slavery) with a 3.048M pole.

I hear those discussed quite often in the US. Someone is obviously willing. And more importantly, it's legal.

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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What you just said makes no sense. How can equities come into existence except via an IPO or similar mechanism? Equities are literally investments in business. Equity is a line in the balance sheet for every corporation.

Exactly. How can they come into existence except via an IPO or similar mechanism? At that moment, investment happens. The rest of the time, it does not. The stock market rising does not increase investment in industry. When you buy stocks at a stock exchange, you aren't investing in industry

You are saying that "investment" only happens when you provide capital to a corporation.

Presumably, under this definition, when you sell stock that is not "disinvestment".

Unless you are selling it back to the company itself. Then it is "disinvestment", because the total amount of capital provided to the corporation has gone down.

That is not what people mean by the term "investment". You need to find a different word, because "investment" has a more general meaning than the concept you are talking about.

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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I’ve owned a lot of Gopro cameras, having done video capture for a variety of motorsports, and they just got too expensive for what you get. You can be more expensive if you’re better, or you can be worse if you’re cheaper, but they’re both the downsides while living purely off brand recognition. They also blew up in a time where there wasn’t any real competition. Sony had action cameras but they were bulkier and exp…

It really didn't help that the HERO 13 changed a bunch of stuff for the worse, like incompatible api and other issues.
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