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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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That’s assuming China would not start controlling the access to their models.

China has no reason to do that. The US is freely handing them the international market for AI.

US just needs their internationally usable model to be better than China's. If China catches up, US starts releasing more powerful models.

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I hope this doesn't become the new norm where government becomes the bottleneck for innovation in the AI space. It's worrying that with no formal and transparent policy framework that the government will be picking winners and losers and stifling innovation. There's been no public policy, executive order, legislation, or otherwise on this, I wonder if anyone has filed FOIA requests for these decisions or the conversa…

Indeed, I find quite ironic that some people in tech in the US complain about EU "regulations first" approach, but then their government seem to arbitrarily stop things from being released because, well, there is no established policy on safety guarantees or other similar aspects.

> there is no established policy on safety guarantees

Which is the government’s own fault.

Elon Musk talked back in 2018 about how he went to Washington and met with Obama and Congress, but they did nothing.

In 2020 Andrew Yang’s entire run for president was centered around the risk of AI displacing job. He lost, no one did anything.

A couple years later we say the consumer facing LLMs start to roll out. Still, no one does anything.

They have time to micromanage the industry, but in all these years they haven’t found the time to establish any meaningful policy?

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The tragedy is the Trump admin is setting the precedent and creating the framework which will be abused in the future. For all the complains he made about the deep state, he's just creating a new avenue for them to abuse power

Same as it ever was. If you listen to interviews with Zuckerberg he’ll talk about the constant communiques from The White House during the Biden administration. Trump didn’t start this unfortunately he’s just more brazen about it.

Oh no! Biden sent an email to a company with a voluntary request?

That’s definitely as concerning as Trump taking bribes and then picking winners and losers in the market.

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> Only companies approved by the government will get access. There is no process for individual users to get access to the new model. I knew the time would come when individuals on personal subscriptions get the short end of the stick. Didn't think it would come so soon. I hope we're not too badly deprecated in the months to come. Looks like I've got to improve my DeepSeek workflows.

From the OpenAI press release:

> We don’t believe this kind of government access process should become the long-term default. It keeps the best tools from users, developers, enterprises, cyber defenders, and global partners who need them. We are taking this short-term step because we believe it is the strongest path to broader availability in the coming weeks, while we work with the Administration to develop the cyber Executive Order framework and a repeatable process for future model releases.

It seems like the exclusion is temporary. There is no process for individual users to get access to the new model _right now_.

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For personal use I don't care if I get access to it. Tokens are becoming too expensive. I am using Chinese models. What worries me is that my company may never get access. I work for a well known US company, but from Europe, we also have developers in Mexico. I can only guess US gov will take this into account when deciding who gets to use the new models. Even worse than not getting access is getting fired. Since les…

Even the subscriptions are too expensive?

Last time I used subscription I hit a usage limit in 20 minutes (gemini). I switched to openrouter and have enough prepaid credits to last me for months with Chinese models. I spent about $30 in last two months.

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Chinese companies can make a killing selling on prem AI systems to the rest of the world now. Big boxes with Huawei GPUs and Chinese open models to run inside your company without network access.

They could, but I can imagine if US keeps on blocking the cutting edge models, China would never ship the cutting edge models and would still make a killing shipping models that are powerful enough for most of business cases

Serious question: why not?

Because China doesn't have the hardware to do this? Or the brains?

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I see it too, but worth noting that this is basically unprecedented at least within the last 25 years; I think you have to go back to export controlled cryptography for another example of this kind of abrupt and targeted regulation.

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Nazism?

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damn, never thought about this - but yeah this is where we are heading. open weight models - will be deemed too risky to be out in the open - since they can be abused by "bad actors" (unwashed masses)

I wouldn’t be surprised if they started going after open-source as a whole and labeling it “communism” like the old Microsoft days.

So much of everybody's infra depends on FOSS. I think every industry giant would dogpile whichever politician tried to go after FOSS as a whole.

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That until it becomes illegal to have or use open source models without approval and licence from government. With more talks about on device scanning, this could be easily plumbed in. If OS detects there is open source model, it could brick your device or alert authorities. Then next step will be limiting what operating system you can install. Likely only those where you cannot remove client side scanning.

I wonder how you can reliably detect an open source model though. It can be stored in any binary format, and the weights can be modified slightly so that the float values are completely different while the network works the same. The binary that runs it can be obfuscated as well. Maybe the hardware could detect common LLM inference patterns at runtime? That would probably produce many false positives.

It's been illegal forever to run a pirated copy of Windows or Photoshop. Even 30 years ago people weren't worried that their pirated copies would tattle on them, businesses did not use pirated copies because vendors would report them/not work on their systems, legal discovery could find them, etc and then they would get ridiculous fines.

It's one thing to get a copy of "illegal" software and use it yourself. The stakes are basically zero and you almost certainly will not get caught

It's a completely different thing to run a business on it with dozens of employees and requiring the employees to break the law to do their job.

Re: U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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A big problem is "U.S. government" muddies the conversation because of how undefinable and large that group is.

Who is deciding who gets to use GPT-5.6? Which organizations? Which leaders?

Focus on that to have a clearer conversation. Without doing this it's like jerking each other off to stroke our egos. You might as well as say "The World will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6"

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