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Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by zamadatix »

knowaveragejoe wrote: post #543
bibimsz wrote: post #538

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wow the almost 4 year old Apple TV 4k gets a 55% bump. The newer and better google tv streamer 4k is half the cost.

Not to mention the non-first-party Google TV sticks/dongles. The Onn ones from Walmart range from $15-50 depending on how many bells and whistles you want. I really don't know why one would pick anything else.

I used to live and die by cheap streaming boxes. Then I got on the Nvidia Shield TV bandwagon for many years and it was both way better & way more hackable, so I thought I'd never want anything else. Then someone gave me an old AppleTV. It was so good I now have 2 and gave away all my other TV devices.

It also caught me a bit off guard in that the Apple TV functions as a kickass hub for home automation. I ended up moving everything to HomeKit native & connected through the Apple TV, which was just automatically redundant between the 2 I have.

About the only things which irk me about it is it's an old enough chip that it doesn't have hardware AV1 decode (so sometimes I'll get a lower quality video because the highest quality is only available in AV1) and it only goes up to 4k60 instead of 4k120 (so you have to enable rate switching on either your TV or the AppleTV, which can result in black flashes as it switches, missed detections, and/or choppy UI on 24 FPS content depending on the specific combination of setup+content). That's the level of "this thing just kicks ass" the Apple TV has been at for me the last few years. $200 is getting to be quite steep... but it was honestly justifiable as worth the extra price before.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by zonkerdonker »

jdiff wrote: post #215

Man, if there was anyone that could weather the storm with their thick memory margins (at least on upgrades), it should have been Apple.

Some back of the envolope math, Apple sells roughly 30 million macbooks per year [1], lets say they average out to 16gb per unit, their demand is about 500 petabytes of ram.

A single rack of NVIDIA’s GB300 uses 20TB of HBM3E and 17TB of LPDDR5X. There could easily be a thousand racks of these in a large datacenter.

So an approximate entire years worth of ddr5 ram demand from Apple equals approximately 1 single datacenter.

I can see how they succumed to the pressure.

[1] https://www.tweaktown.com/news/104073/macbook-pro-is-reporte...

[2] https://frame.work/pl/en/blog/updates-on-memory-pricing-and-...

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by GeekyBear »

primaprashant wrote: post #465

These are the price changes mentioned in the article: Macs MacBook Neo: $699 (up from $599) 13-inch MacBook Air: $1,299 (up from $1,099) 15-inch MacBook Air: $1,499 (up from $1,299) M5 MacBook Pro: $1,999 (up from $1,699) M5 Pro MacBook Pro: $2,499 (up from $2,199) M5 Max MacBook Pro: $4,099 (up from $3,599) iMac: $1,499 (up from $1,299) M4 Max Mac Studio: $2,499 (up from $1,999) M3 Ultra Mac Studio: $5,299 (up from…

To be fair, Microsoft announced their third XBox price hike today.

> The price of XBOX consoles will increase by US$100 for 512 GB models and US$150 for 1 TB models. We will also be sunsetting our 2 TB model.

https://kotaku.com/xbox-price-increase-2026-tariffs-buy-now-...

This is in addition to the other two recent price hikes.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by seviu »

z2 wrote: post #519
seviu wrote: post #481

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Impulse bought a Pro with 48Gb ram on a retailer with old prices Was waiting for the next generation but I think I will sit it out

Same here, reserved a 48GB M5 Pro shortly after seeing the news, and now I see the same retailer raised the price by over $1000. If they honor the sale, then this will be the most short term value I've gotten out of an HN submission ever.

Same here. Buy now ask questions later. Pretty sure the shop where I bought it will happily cancel the order if I give the cancel order.

Oled laptop will have to wait a few years now.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by mmcnl »

coldtea wrote: post #97
stavros wrote: post #42

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What's OpenAI going to do? Not secure supply for their product? If you don't like the hardware price increases, don't use LLMs.

> What's OpenAI going to do? Close down would be a good idea.

The world would be a better place without AI, OpenAI, Anthropic and all others. It only immerses the world into chaos, dystopia and increased inequality. So far nothing for the public good has come out of it.

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Post by AlecSchueler »

daishi55 wrote: post #536
mysterydip wrote: post #304

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The computing power available today is such a double-edged sword. We can do so much more so much faster, but then we (including myself in this) waste so many cycles on abstractions and frameworks and layers of libraries to make our development jobs easier.

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> This is such a reddit take

You might consider that your comment would have been just as strong without the opening put-down.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by forestingfisher »

revolvingthrow wrote: post #45
piinbinary wrote: post #4

I have a suspicion these new prices will stick around, even after the RAM shortage ends. Speaking of which, what's the timeline of the RAM shortage ending? I have no sense for whether it is going to be (for example) 6 months or 3 years.

>what's the timeline of the RAM shortage ending? Barring unusual market forces like Taiwan invasion the timeline to ending the acute shortage seems to be mid 2028. The AI still has plenty of money to burn and is the biggest driver, but we’re also shortly before gaming consoles ought to release a new gen (although who knows whether they won’t get delayed for a while). There was even going to be a small upgrade cycle f…

China won’t invade Taiwan. Be realistic

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by CraigJPerry »

j1elo wrote: post #413
mysterydip wrote: post #304

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The computing power available today is such a double-edged sword. We can do so much more so much faster, but then we (including myself in this) waste so many cycles on abstractions and frameworks and layers of libraries to make our development jobs easier.

If the absurd memory prices might have some positive outcome, it will be consumers demanding that all their basic pack of apps are able to run on 16 and even 8 GB of RAM, by means of avoiding those that hog their machines. And consequently (hopefully), developers and their managers being incentivized by market forces to have a modicum of care for performance and not wasting bytes. Dreaming is free... All Electron dev…

>> it will be consumers demanding

But how do I get to express that demand? Asking as a frustrated regular user of excel - excel is amazing software but if your laptop is not in airplane mode, the number of little delays that creep in is wild. It's all seemingly network delays, connecting to onedrive servers when i'm editing a field (why?!), 10s of connections to random microsoft domains as i flick between tabs in the UI (why?!) - each flick incurring a subtle but observable delay.

>> Dreaming is free... All Electron devs

I like your sentiment for sure but i reckon you might be barking up the wrong tree. I'll give the clearest counter example i know of:

When i scroll a buffer in Zed (it's a 120fps editor written in rust that i really want to like) i perceive micro stutters.

When i scroll a buffer in VSCode (an electron app) it's buttery smooth.

I've tried this many times over 1.5+ years of releases. It's a reliable finding on an m1 macbook pro and an m1 imac.

If the slow stack can be fast and the fast stack can be slow, then there's more to this than just tech stack.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by ghaff »

Just got a new MacBook Air.

The thing I'm keeping my eye on is iPhones. I destroyed my iPhone on a multi-day hiking trip a few years ago and, for international travel, I really like having a workable backup which, if I could even find it, my iPhone X isn't at this point. Could buy something used I suppose but probably better just biting the bullet and getting something new.

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