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Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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Post by mullingitover »

thisisit wrote: post #542
ryandvm wrote: post #280

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We always overestimate the change that will occur in the next two years and underestimate the change that will occur in the next ten. Every new generation changing technology is followed by a frenzy of infrastructure build out. Running up to the dotcom bubble lot of money was spent on building undersea cables and Internet infra because the assumption was that the demand for websites was going to be a straight line if…

The railroad bubble and the dotcom bubble feature prominently as disastrous misallocations of capital in one of my favorite books: "Devil Take the Hindmost: A History of Financial Speculation."

Pitching AI as in the same vein is a very dark prognostication. As in, probably going to cause a wreck so bad we won't see breakeven in our lifetimes. The railroad bubble and the dotcom bust were generational economic calamities. For Gen X and Millenials, combine that with the 2008 GFC and it's been nonstop waves of speculation-driven disaster drowning us our whole lives.

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Post by Foobar8568 »

ralferoo wrote: post #62
ozgune wrote: post #18

The new prices are here: https://docs.hetzner.com/general/infrastructure-and-availabi... (However, Hetzner did an earlier price increase 38 days ago. HN's submission logic sends posting the url to the previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48306066 )

The price of server auctions seem pretty much the same as before: https://www.hetzner.com/sb so if you don't need the latest hardware, Hetzner is still and outstanding deal.

Server auctions are more expensive than last month, I feel like 50% more at a minimum.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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Post by moontear »

ozgune wrote: post #18

The new prices are here: https://docs.hetzner.com/general/infrastructure-and-availabi... (However, Hetzner did an earlier price increase 38 days ago. HN's submission logic sends posting the url to the previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48306066 )

Ah, so this is ANOTHER price increase in a short timeframe? Thought I read about this before

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Post by mellosouls »

Shades of the recent GitHub Copilot price hikes; class-leader in value to also-ran.

I wonder if there are underlying component cost connections or just corporate politics and the cold hands of the profit-people.

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Post by qingcharles »

duckmysick wrote: post #253
pocksuppet wrote: post #224

The last price increase was 5-10%. This one is a 150% increase. Goodbye Hetzner. The old version of you will be missed.

Where are you moving to?

I needed to spin up a tiny little logging server this morning. Someone on Reddit recommended Datalix, so I'm trying their €2.50/mo VPS.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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Post by JCTheDenthog »

azan_ wrote: post #376
pdimitar wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is likely mostly nullified by the consumerism hellscape that's being forced on us i.e. stuff lasts less time and we have to buy more often. Still a win but not as big as many are selling it.

> This is likely mostly nullified by the consumerism hellscape that's being forced on us i.e. stuff lasts less time and we have to buy more often. Actually good quality stuff is more affordable than ever. People just don't want to pay for quality and things that last.

>Actually good quality stuff is more affordable than ever. People just don't want to pay for quality and things that last.

You might want to read *A Market for Lemons".

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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Post by tda »

yread wrote: post #114

There can only be so many "I saved 10x by moving to Hetzner" posts before they pick up the value they were leaving on the table...

I literally migrated last week, and saved 8x by ditching AWS for Hetzner.

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Post by eichin »

buredoranna wrote: post #500
ryandvm wrote: post #280

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If you're interested in upsides, I can highly recommend the book "Progress: Ten Reasons to Look Forward to the Future", by Johan Norberg [1]. I was able to borrow the audio book from my library... absolutely worth the listen. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress:_Ten_Reasons_to_Look_... (edit: formatting)

2016 - so, generic upsides of global capitalism, but nothing specific to the AI bubble?

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Post by merelydev »

jermaustin1 wrote: post #462
merelydev wrote: post #187

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I volunteer my laptop, I suggest you and others do the same. We can hook them up in a VPN with E2ee. We just need 1 public IP. Lets Go!

I like this idea for something akin to p2p shared/sharded hosting.

Wiregaurd, postgres replication and load balancing can do the job?

Lets go: https://matrix.to/#/#hostpool:matrix.org

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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Post by Valakas_ »

thisisit wrote: post #542
ryandvm wrote: post #280

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We always overestimate the change that will occur in the next two years and underestimate the change that will occur in the next ten. Every new generation changing technology is followed by a frenzy of infrastructure build out. Running up to the dotcom bubble lot of money was spent on building undersea cables and Internet infra because the assumption was that the demand for websites was going to be a straight line if…

The comparison with the internet is not valid, and I can immediately give you one reason. I was there (3000 years ago) when the internet was in its infancy. When the dot com bubble was going on, the internet was a fringe thing for most people. People didn't really use it, didn't know how to use it, didn't trust it (for purchases, for information). The investors were still right, but they were too ahead of their time, by almost a decade.

AI is not like that today already, both by common people or by companies. They're using AI at capacity. Demand is higher than supply. Not the other way around, like it was for the internet.

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