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Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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I've used one of the flagship Surface Books two jobs ago, really beefy, could run Cyberpunk(don't ask how I know). Insanely bad machine, the overall finish was terrible, hinges broke often, charging port broke often(like every 3rd-4th person in the office), it overheated with basic office work, fans went rocket level loud when compiling basic things, after a while it was stuttering even with casual use. Had a really good Dell XPS at home too that was dying when compiling big Typescript codebase. I bought an MBP M3Pro 1.5y ago and I could never go back. It's insane how far ahead Apple is when it comes to performance. Noone seems to grasp that until they actually try to work on M-series. Three of my ex colleagues also switched to Macbooks after I told them, they also are never coming back.

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Call me a hater, but the problem is Windows, not necessarily the hardware. I get it they want to stop the MacBook Pro, but: Windows is slow for no reason; it collects everything it can about the user; takes screenshots of whatever the user is doing; has ads - even though you pay for the OS; drivers are still a mess; hardware is made by different companies and no actual proper integration like Apple does. I could go o…

Similarly on the higher end, I want to run linux on Apple Macbook laptops.

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post #551

I've used one of the flagship Surface Books two jobs ago, really beefy, could run Cyberpunk(don't ask how I know). Insanely bad machine, the overall finish was terrible, hinges broke often, charging port broke often(like every 3rd-4th person in the office), it overheated with basic office work, fans went rocket level loud when compiling basic things, after a while it was stuttering even with casual use. Had a really…

Yeah, I think I'd rather die than go back to the current iteration of Windows for dev work.

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Call me a hater, but the problem is Windows, not necessarily the hardware. I get it they want to stop the MacBook Pro, but: Windows is slow for no reason; it collects everything it can about the user; takes screenshots of whatever the user is doing; has ads - even though you pay for the OS; drivers are still a mess; hardware is made by different companies and no actual proper integration like Apple does. I could go o…

> Call me a hater, but the problem is Windows, not necessarily the hardware.

Thing is, MacOS was heading the same way until the new chips saved it. The last few versions that were still running on Intel shouldn't have been as slow as they were.

Software is going to shit everywhere, it's just there's now M* equivalent for Windows and Intel.

All that to say: yes, I think you're spot on, the problem is sowftware, not hardware.

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Thunderbolt docks being absolute dogshit is universal across the market, it's not limited to one manufacturer. Apple doesn't have this problem because they don't even make docks they're so problematic. Enjoy dongles, Mac users. Modern docks usually run their own internal OS and require frequent reboots to even attempt to appear stable. The worst part is most use docks to get Ethernet, but docks nearly universally use…

I've been super happy with my Caldigit TS3 for my various Macs.

Same here. My TS3 Plus is around 7 years old now and I’m still daily driving it. Haven’t experienced any issues at all and I’ve used it with various Windows/MacOS/Linux computers.

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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Every time I read something like "completely redefines professional computing" I think that somebody in the marketing department didn't do a good enough job to disguise a sponsored content, or at the very least didn't review what the independent author wrote. Anyway, what I like of this machine is the 15" screen with a keyboard without a numberpad: the center of the body of the user can be aligned with the center of…

> Anyway, what I like of this machine is the 15" screen with a keyboard without a numberpad: the center of the body of the user can be aligned with the center of the screen. ThinkPad P1 is the machine for you and you can run Linux on it.

I have a ThinkPad P1 (Gen 2) and I run Linux, but I'd hesitate to recommend at least the Nvidia dGPU versions. The battery life is dismal, even with the dGPU disabled in software (can't be HW disabled). It also runs really hot and the suspend is still flakey.

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

#557

Imagine thinking the rivalry is about hardware and not software... Same for IOS vs Android.

I mean, it's both. PC OEM laptops have sucked for 6+ years that Apple silicon has been out. Apple makes the best laptops on the market. I'm glad the PC industry is hopefully waking up, finally. I'd like to see some good hardware with Linux support. That's all I've wanted, a macbook pro experience on Linux.

yeah fair. in the end, more competition is great

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

#558

Call me a hater, but the problem is Windows, not necessarily the hardware. I get it they want to stop the MacBook Pro, but: Windows is slow for no reason; it collects everything it can about the user; takes screenshots of whatever the user is doing; has ads - even though you pay for the OS; drivers are still a mess; hardware is made by different companies and no actual proper integration like Apple does. I could go o…

Similarly on the higher end, I want to run linux on Apple Macbook laptops.

Isn't there Asahi Linux that boots on Apple Silicon? Never tried it, but people here on HN mention it from time to time.

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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While I somehow like the fact that Microsoft is trying to compete, their problem stays the same: There are too many people involved. - Nvidia - Mediatek - Microsoft - Windows team - Surface team - Marketing team - ... The main advantage of Apple is and will be, that they control the hardware AND the software / firmware completely and can make devices that feel completely cohesive. That's the reason Framework has an a…

Yeah, apple, they can be huge a-holes simply because they can. Your integration story is nice, but same company does this actively: If you have airpods pro (2nd gen in this case) that kept working fine with apple phone, but then you got tired/annoyed/disgusted by their OS and ecosystem and migrated to Samsung S24 (my wife' story), those plugs effectively stop working via bluetooth. Disconnects, no good ANC, pairing i…

User error? I also have 2nd gen Airpod Pros and they work fine with my S24 Ultra. The only thing that doesn't work is automatic connecting, which is actually a feature I'd like to turn off.

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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post #554

Call me a hater, but the problem is Windows, not necessarily the hardware. I get it they want to stop the MacBook Pro, but: Windows is slow for no reason; it collects everything it can about the user; takes screenshots of whatever the user is doing; has ads - even though you pay for the OS; drivers are still a mess; hardware is made by different companies and no actual proper integration like Apple does. I could go o…

> Call me a hater, but the problem is Windows, not necessarily the hardware. Thing is, MacOS was heading the same way until the new chips saved it. The last few versions that were still running on Intel shouldn't have been as slow as they were. Software is going to shit everywhere, it's just there's now M* equivalent for Windows and Intel. All that to say: yes, I think you're spot on, the problem is sowftware, not ha…

More specifically, the problem is software that the user has less and less control of every year. We have no control over the bloat Apple and Microsoft perpetually add to their operating systems. We just have to take it, or hardware and ecosystem leave us behind.

I wouldn't mind Windows if it were easy to rein it in, if I had granular control over what updates get applied and what gets trashed, and the ability to opt-out of updates. I wouldn't mind macOS if I could more easily control the UI bloat, preinstalled apps, and hundreds of background daemons/processes that are running that I never asked for.

I want to take my Operating Systems back to 2009 and have a version of Windows 7 and OSX Snow Leopard that runs on my modern computers and have all 3rd party apps work on those operating systems.

Or, just install Linux.

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