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Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by wolvoleo »

chasd00 wrote: post #247
wolvoleo wrote: post #116

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As a European: yes definitely. And that won't be fixed if you choose a sane administration again. There can always be another Trump. It will take significant time to build trust again.

> It will take significant time to build trust again and nothing of value was lost. What did the US get out of the relationship?

As vga1 says, a lot of American services are used by us. American goods too but not quite as much. When Trump complains about his trade balance he always ignores the revenue from services. The trade balance isn't actually bad when you include them.

But also influence through alliance. Even a superpower can't go it alone and use their military to bend others to its will.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by storus »

And in other news some European Google Mail accounts got a notification that due to their usage patterns, they are migrating their accounts to Texas (for people who might have traveled through Texas at some point in the past).

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by [deleted] »

crote wrote: post #538
embedding-shape wrote: post #381

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I guess they eventually read their own local (US) laws and figured no one cares about that effort since Amazon is still covered by CLOUD Act, regardless of what ccTLD they happen to use for their landing page. > The CLOUD Act primarily amends the Stored Communications Act (SCA) of 1986 to allow federal law enforcement to compel U.S.-based technology companies via warrant or subpoena to provide requested data stored o…

Their idea is that the EU cloud's corporate structure is completely independent, so AWS US isn't a parent company' so the CLOUD Act doesn't apply. They aren't a local subsidiary, they are an independent company licensing the AWS tech stack to operate fully independently on their own hardware - which just happens to also have a license to the AWS name. It's a rather clever idea, and it essentially prevents EU governme…

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Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by john_strinlai »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #540
TheCapn wrote: post #531

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As a Canadian who has been listening to the "51st state" wordvomit coming out of US administration your comment is very apt. For some reason I can't fully grasp, a LOT of US citizens are ignorant to how the rest of the world is perceiving them at the current moment. There's countless US articles talking about US/Canada relations as if it is a trade dispute and that they think Canadians are eager to re-unite and go ba…

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i find it amusing how you shoehorned US immigration issues/conspiracy into the above conversation

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by dangus »

rob74 wrote: post #186
dangus wrote: post #4

> The OVHcloud control panel is a labyrinth: the lifecycle rule configuration is buried somewhere in the documentation, and it involves some work in the terminal. Use OpenTofu/Terraform! Much better than messing with cloud consoles, and then your infrastructure self-documents. I’d also put out one note to any people outside the EU looking to switch to Mistral or really any service: just because they’re a European com…

> they state that they follow whatever privacy laws exist in your country Well, that's kinda obvious - if they want to do business in a country, they have to follow the laws of that country. That doesn't in and of itself mean that they will apply weaker privacy protections if the local laws are less strict than GDPR...

I don’t really feel like looking it up again but the verbiage sounded more to me like they were specifically trying to say that they weren’t setting the GDPR as a minimum standard.

We also have to realize that any privacy policy that is allowing for something out of vagueness is something where you have to assume the worst.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by Beijinger »

"Not everything moved. Cloudflare is a US company, I still use it, and I’m at peace with that."

I am not. THe cancer of the Internet. Sometimes Cloudflare does not work abroad. It is annoying.

"Here’s the reasoning: Cloudflare sits in front of my public-facing websites. Its job is to cache, protect against DDoS attacks,"

If your host has no protection against DDoS then find a better host.

You can find very cheap CDN, if you really need them. Likely you dont.

As a word of caution, Cloudflare can have a devastating effect on SEO if you are not a paying customer and serve your stuff from your own URL. Cloudflare allows this only for paid accounts.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by dgellow »

sevenzero wrote: post #307
traceroute66 wrote: post #189

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> need all the business documents as well, like a privacy policy even if its just a small public app on the playstore And this is a bad thing why exactly ?!?!?! If you respect your users data and right to privacy then you've got nothing to hide by publishing an EU compliant privacy policy. It might be "just a small app", but I and many other people still very much still "do give a damn" about what the hell you do wit…

Because if I want to provide an app to like 5 people I know personally, I am soon forced to do so via the Playstore due to Google disabling sideloading on Android. So now I am forced to inform myself about all the bullshit documents I never cared for beforehand. Yes I know what I am allowed to do with my users data, no I don't send it to some data brokers, yes I already comply to privacy laws and whatnot. Just requir…

You don’t need a lawyer to create privacy terms. You can literally write a markdown file hosted on GitHub where you explain that you don’t track anything (assuming it’s the case). You also don’t need to publish something publicly to the stores to share with friends, you can both side load (no it’s not disappearing) and have test versions that your friends can install

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by dgellow »

hankerapp wrote: post #80
schnitzelstoat wrote: post #13

While I agree with him that the US is becoming more unpredictable, I don't think the EU is much better, especially with regards to digital things where they can be worse in some ways. For example, they are discussing restricting VPN access for 'child protection'[1] [1] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EPRS_AT...

Also, the "open your app store to competitors" was just bullshit, eyewash, cop out. The apps on these "alternative app stores" still need to jump through all the hoops, pay apple development fees, get approved etc.

You do realize all those hops are what Apple decided to set up? It’s not from the regulations. They could have allowed 3rd party stores with zero restrictions but are instead trying to fake compliance

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by embedding-shape »

joe_mamba wrote: post #487
embedding-shape wrote: post #248

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> but the truth is if you want your SaaS to make money, you gotta be in the US Worth specifying here you're talking about VC-infested SaaS, not just your run-of-the-mill bootstrapped SaaS. It's very much possible to run a SaaS in Europe and make money, as countless of people already do, which I'm sure you too are aware of, but probably way harder to raise similar amount of money as US companies, that I'd agree with.…

Spotify was also a " VC-infested SaaS".

are*, but yes, they are. Not sure what that dis/proves, but indeed they've taken money from VCs.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by embedding-shape »

nozzlegear wrote: post #411
embedding-shape wrote: post #254

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Yes, just like expecting the sun to also rise tomorrow is mostly conjecture and speculation since we cannot see into the future, yet.

This is just categorically different and epistemically dishonest. It is, frankly, an embarrassing attempt to defend the fact that you don't actually have any evidence to support the claim that Cloudflare is supposedly an NSA creation beyond "believe me bro, ever heard of PRISM?"

> actually have any evidence to support the claim that Cloudflare is supposedly an NSA creation beyond

I never claimed so, never would either, so who's being dishonest now?

What I've said is that NSA compromises everything they can get their hands on (lots of evidence of this), assuming that Cloudflare aren't compromised by NSA already would be foolish, but you're right, this is an assumption on my part, I won't claim I have proof of this, just like I don't have proof that the sun will rise tomorrow, but I do assume so too.

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