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Re: Waymo in Portland

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post #444

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California high speed rail isn't running now but it is improving lots of things along the way. For example one of the most dangerous crossings in the state is now grade separated with the Rosecrans/Marquardt Grade Separation Project. https://www.metro.net/about/media-relations/156-million-new-...

Certainly worth $100 billion

It was $156 million? About half of that was funded by the high speed rail budget

Re: Waymo in Portland

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post #387

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How far into the 'burbs do waymos usually extend? Will Beaverton/hillbsoro be part of the build?

Hard to know. The Waymo bay area service area is 60 miles long. https://support.google.com/waymo/answer/9059119?hl=en#PHX

Oh wow that's a lot farther than I remember. I took a Waymo while in the Bay area a couple years ago, and I seem to remember the Waymo service area only going as far South as the I-280 and US-101 interchange?

Am I misremembering, or did they just drastically expand it?

Re: Waymo in Portland

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The bus system would almost certainly be better if it did cost a somewhat-significant amount of money, because one of the biggest problems with public transit in the US is marginalized people getting on public transit and acting in ways that are unpleasant and disruptive to everyone else using it (think about a homeless drug addict passing out on the bus while splayed across several seats; or a schizophrenic screamin…

Really horrifying lack of empathy in your thinking. Also, what a stupid, shortsighted plan.

It's possible to want homeless drug addicts to be able to get the help they need while also not wanting them spazzing out on the bus next to me.

Re: Waymo in Portland

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Are Waymos cheaper than hiring a person?

It's hard to measure "cheaper" as an end user consumer, the price you pay for the service, because it's very likely they're operating at a loss to gain market share and growth. Exact same reason why Uber and Lyft were considerably cheaper than taxis in many big cities when they first launched (eg: Lyft in Seattle in 2013/2014), running at a loss, and the pricing has now incrementally grown to become the same as, or e…

Great point

Re: Waymo in Portland

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Stiff competition for humans, especially drivers outside the top quartile or so. Waymo appears to its passengers to drive much more competently than certainly any sub-average rideshare driver. Although I like jobs for humans, I hope these aren’t all just set on fire because there is promise in reducing fatalities. Want to find a way for offline vehicles that can go 65MPH to remain legal though. Without Flock every bl…

Ironically, Uber used the same tactics to replace taxis with rideshare: (Taxis/rideshares) are dangerous, drivers harass you, etc. Ours are so amazing, people love them. The reality is that I have zero problems with rideshares (or taxis, when I'm someplace that still has them). Being a social animal like other Homo sapiens , interacting is a positive but drivers have no problem giving me peace. I'd much rather have t…

Final thing “They say the same about you!” Still don’t get it hehe

Re: Waymo in Portland

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post #453

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Transit is public, so it requires advocacy, just like any other oplicy issue!

Were there man-on-the-street grass roots 1950s advocates that were instrumental for getting the interstate highway system built? Suburban expansion advocates? Do you really only need an advocate to convince people to like something that they otherwise currently dislike?

Yeah, motorist clubs. AAA did a lot of advocacy for expanding driving back in the day, apparently they still lobby for & against certain taxes.

Re: Waymo in Portland

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You can make this kind of specious argument for any infraction, no matter how minor. Hard pass on your ridiculous dystopia.

Living in a society where you don't have to worry about people stealing, being violent, doing drugs, scamming you, breaking into your car, etc sounds like the opposite of a dystopia.

Yeah, but you mentioned none of those things, instead you suggested a 10+ year sentence is reasonable for people who are too “noisy”. I assume you’d recommend slow torture and then the murder of their entire family if someone dared to actually “do drugs”.

Fortunately, your views are wildly extreme and unconstitutional. Regardless, I hope you find some empathy and some peace out there.

Re: Waymo in Portland

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post #543

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How many times have you been flipped off while driving it? And buying one after Elon lost his mind and did a nazi salute TWICE is pretty gross.

Ah. Now I see why you’re so against it. My condolences. I did get my share of similarly deranged people flipping me off, until I moved out of the Seattle area. Now things are better :)

So the owner of a company makes a Nazi salute in public twice and makes many racist comments and retweets on twitter and you just shrug and buy from the company anyway? You are confirming everything I assumed about cyber-truck buyers. You consider me deranged and not Musk? That is just absurd.

Re: Waymo in Portland

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> something like a Rivian but with Waymo tech So a Tesla?

I, independently, made almost exactly the same comment before seeing yours lol. I already do 20+ hour cross-country trips in my Y without a break to sleep, which is only possible because I'm not meaningfully fatigued driving. it's still technically supervised but I think that's beyond the point OP is making

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/04/self-driving-ca...

My Tesla Was Driving Itself Perfectly—Until It Crashed

The danger of almost-perfect tech

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