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I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by brazukadev »

echelon wrote: post #221
kube-system wrote: post #103

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There's going to be a day when we look back at $200/mo price tags and say "wow that was cheap". The breakeven at this price is 6 minutes of productivity per work day for an engineer making $200k.

Everyone is arguing why I'm wrong or that I should have presented more data. You've got the real insight with this claim. This is the way the world is moving. Open source isn't even going where the ball is being tossed. There is no leadership here. You're spot on. If the cost to deliver a unit of business automation is: A. $1M with human labor B. $700k human labor + open source models C. $500k human labor + $10,000 i…

This is you playing with imaginary numbers, like Sam Altman is doing for a long time. It won't end well.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by hu3 »

mrinterweb wrote: post #94

My recent frustration with Claude has been it feels like I'm waiting on responses more. I don't have historical latency to compare this with, but I feel like it has been getting slower. I may be wrong, and maybe its just spending more time thinking than it used to. My guess is Anthropic is having capacity issues. I hope I'm wrong because I don't want to switch.

About slowdowns... I have this theory that if they sneak some sleep(1) calls while processing medium to complex prompts they can serve more clients.

But I think "context switching" between 2 different prompts might be too expensive for GPUs to be worth it for LLM providers. Who knows.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by dandaka »

dutchCourage wrote: post #198
dandaka wrote: post #145

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autopilot (yolo mode) is amazing and feels great, truly delegate instead of hand-holding on every step

Do you have any good resources on how to work like that? I made the move from "auto complete on steroids" to "agents write most of my code". But I can't imagine running agents unchecked (and in parallel!) for any significant amount of time.

It will come naturally! I have started with autocomplete as well. I was stumbling upon different problems and was fixing them by implementing best practices. Current stack is:

1/ Claude Code with yolo mode

2/ superpowers plugin

3/ red/green tdd

4/ a lot of planning and requirements before writing any code

It feels like you always touch this edge of capability of models and your current workflow. Delegate more complex task, and system fails. Delegate more simple and system works great. Improve your workflow and move this complexity to a higher level.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by kube-system »

dragandj wrote: post #539
kube-system wrote: post #278

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I'm talking about the cost of labor. If you pay someone $20,000 for labor, and they save 65 minutes worth of labor per day using a $200/mo Claude subscription, you are better off buying the Claude subscription.

Who's gonna pay $20,000 for labor that can be done by anyone with a $200/mo subscription?

Nobody, but that doesn’t exist yet. Currently these solutions enhance the productivity of workers, but it can’t quite replace them.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by hrimfaxi »

kuboble wrote: post #512
kube-system wrote: post #278

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I'm talking about the cost of labor. If you pay someone $20,000 for labor, and they save 65 minutes worth of labor per day using a $200/mo Claude subscription, you are better off buying the Claude subscription.

I think if you (a company) pay someone for labor, your labor cannot use personal subscription and you have to pay considerably higher api prices.

Most companies don't provide a corporate cell phone and have no problems with answering emails from a personal account. Can't have it both ways.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by SpaceNoodled »

rhubarbtree wrote: post #527
oefrha wrote: post #484

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One aspect you have to consider is the differences in human beings doing the evaluation. I had a coworker/report who would hand me obvious garbage tier code with glaring issues even in its output, and it would take multiple iterations to address very specific review comments (once, in frustration, I showed a snippet of their output to my nontechnical mom and even my mom wtf’ed and pointed out the problem unprompted);…

This is plausible. Assuming it’s true, we would see the adoption of vibe coding at a faster rate amongst inexperienced developers. I think that’s true. A counterpoint is Google saying the vast majority of their code is written by AI. The developers at Google are not inexperienced. They build complex critical systems. But it still feels odd to me, this contradiction. Yes there’s some skill to using AI but that doesn’t…

You don't think Sundar would do that, just go on the Internet and tell lies?

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by SpaceNoodled »

riquito wrote: post #431
hunterpayne wrote: post #424

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One is getting paid by a marketing department program and the other isn't. Remember how much has been spent making LLMs and they have now decided that coding is its money maker. I expect any negative comment on LLM coding to be replied to by at least 2 different puppets or bots.

Then you should expect any positive comment to be replied negatively by a competition's puppet or bot too

Not necessarily; rising tide and all that. When a new scam like this emerges, it behooves all of the grifters to cooperate and not muddy the waters with distrust.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by kashunstva »

I’m sympathetic to the author’s complaints about Anthropic’s support, though I would go further. It doesn’t exist.

For reasons that continue to elude me, almost exactly one year ago, Anthropic cancelled my Claude Pro plan. To appeal, you must fill out a Google docs form. And wait. In my case, I’ve waited for about one year. Once I managed to email with a human but they quickly plugged that hole with a chatbot that sends you back to their never-to-be-reviewed form. No route to escalate.

A year gives one a long time to think about things. Maybe it was because I was on a VPN temporarily. Otherwise, no clue. I’m a hobbyist embedded developer. That’s it.

So no, Anthropic support isn’t just poor; it’s nonexistent.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by sensanaty »

Aurornis wrote: post #460
coldtea wrote: post #450

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> Might as well just write the code yourself at that point "We have this thing that can speed your code writing 10x" "If it isn't 1000x and it doesn't give me a turnkey end to end product might as well write the whole thing myself" People have forgotten balance. Which is funny, because the inability of the AI to just do the whole thing end to end correctly is what stands between 10 developers having a job versus 1 de…

The goalposts move every month. We’re at the stage where handing an entire specification to a mid-tier AI and walking away while it does all the work and then being disappointed that it wasn’t perfect means it’s useless.

If I still have to do a ton of work to clean up whatever the AI shits out then it might as well have done nothing. The promise of these systems from the hypesters is that it can do everything, so don't be surprised when people expect exactly that.
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