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As a point of information: Astral did not, in fact, burn through its VC money. I agree that dev tools are difficult to monetize, though. (Source: I'm an Astral employee.)
> As a point of order: Astral did not, in fact, burn through its VC money. That's a point of information, not a point of order.
Astral to Join OpenAI
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Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#552Wow - this is potentially the most cynical hacker news thread I've ever read. When did this place trade it's curiosity and excitement about technology for constant doomerism? Congrats Astral and co!
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From my understanding there are a lot of companies that need their own package repositories, for a variety of reasons. I listened to a couple podcasts where Charlie Marsh outlined their plans for pyx, and why they felt their entry into that market would be profitable. My guess is that OpenAI just dangled way more money in their faces than what they were likely to get from pyx. Having a private package index gives you…
We have some kind of simple pip repo that is private where I work. What would astral bring to the table?
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> If you don't want your lunch eaten by a private equity firm, make sure whatever tool you use is GPL licensed. 1. For the record: the GPL is entirely dependent on copyright. 2. If AI "clean-room" re-implementations are allow to bypass copyright/licenses, the GPL won't protect you.
If clean-room re-implementations are allowed to bypass copyright/licenses (software) copyright is dead in general?
patents protect ideas, copyright protects artistic expressions of ideas
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#555A concern: More and more plainly, OpenAI and Anthropic are making plays to own (and lease) the "means of production" in software. OK - I'm a pretty happy renter right now. As they gobble up previously open software stacks, how viable is it that these stacks remain open? It seems perfectly sensible to me that these providers and their users alike have an interest in further centralizing the dev lifecycle - eg, if Clau…
Stop using MIT licensed software being run by small vc backed operations if you value stability. They are risky and often costly Trojan horses.
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#556I'd expect OpenAi to make some type of Github clone next, perhaps with Astral, or maybe with jujutsu.
Why? Github is already owned by Microsoft, who are deep in with OpenAI. And what worth would a Github-clone even have for the world? It's not like there is any important innovation left in that space at the moment, or are there any?
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#557Congrats to the Astral team, they've done great work and deserve everything. As a user of uv who was hoping it would be a long term stable predictable uninteresting part of my toolchain this sucks, right?
As the owner they dictate their priorities, whether around features or tighter integration with their ecosystem.
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pixi? https://pixi.prefix.dev/latest/ Have not tried it too much yet because I was pretty content with `uv`, but I've heard lots of good things about it
Pretty sure that uses UV to do it's magic
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#559Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#560Wow - this is potentially the most cynical hacker news thread I've ever read. When did this place trade it's curiosity and excitement about technology for constant doomerism? Congrats Astral and co!