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Re: Have a fucking website

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Alright cool. Your assuming the local government employed webmaster won't favor his friends restaurants. Craigslist basically is this, and it's more or less free.

> Your assuming the local government employed webmaster won't favor his friends restaurants. Oh my! Mic drop! You got me! Corporate owned sites would have to be unbiased, right? It's not like a business would ever do something as disreputable favoring a restaurant that paid for the favored treatment, or try to steer you to affiliated businesses. Inconceivable! But seriously now: a government-run site would be way bet…

Trump would be running that right now if it existed.

Re: Have a fucking website

#552

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>Each person who makes their reservation or take out order online is one less phone call to interrupt the work in the restaurant. What makes you think old school restaurants care about that levels of efficiency and optimisations? If they did, they'd all optimize everything till they all become become mcdonalds.

It's in the part you quoted: They don't want to be interrupted by phone calls while they are working. Because they are very busy with other stuff. People working in restaurants are always on their feet doing something. Taking online orders helps them ease a bit of a burden without having any negative effect for the customer experience.

Someone from the staff still needs to regularly check and apply the online booking or cancellations because waiters are not autonomous robots where the booking system beams the info their brain(yet). It doesn't remove any friction you're just replacing interrupt driven phone calls with the internet driven polling and calling this radical innovation.

Re: Have a fucking website

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It's in the part you quoted: They don't want to be interrupted by phone calls while they are working. Because they are very busy with other stuff. People working in restaurants are always on their feet doing something. Taking online orders helps them ease a bit of a burden without having any negative effect for the customer experience.

Someone from the staff still needs to regularly check and apply the online booking or cancellations because waiters are not autonomous robots where the booking system beams the info their brain(yet). It doesn't remove any friction you're just replacing interrupt driven phone calls with the internet driven polling and calling this radical innovation.

I've worked for some years in restaurants. Guess what everybody hates? Having their work interrupted by phone calls.

Would you like to have your work interrupted all the time by phone calls?

Today I consult for restaurants and help them get their web presence and the reservation systems they need on their websites. They are very happy for this.

A restaurant usually has their booking calendar open on a display that all the chefs and waiters can check when they walk by. The system doesn't need any human to "apply" reservations or cancellations.

And there is a big difference between being interrupted to take bookings, or checking bookings when you have down-time. But thank you for your hacker sarcasm.

Guests usually call during the day to book tables for the evening or for another evening. In the afternoon between lunch and dinner, there is more time for staff to check bookings. Instead of answering the phone in the middle of morning prep or lunch service.

Then there's events. A venue can have public events with hundreds or thousands of participants. Usually during high season. So now you'd have that additional burden of phone calls, which becomes completely impossible unless you hire additional staff to only take calls. Or you have your own online system which is available 24/7 for customers to make and even pay for their bookings.

Third party reservation systems take anything from 15%-25% to do it for you, which is not really great for the restaurant, compared to buying their own system.

Or if it's an online system for take-away orders or deliveries, these get sent directly to the kitchen ticket printer.

And it's the same for the other small business category: accommodation. The best thing they can do is have their own online booking systems. To increase sales, reduce burden on staff, and reduce expenses to third party providers. And give customers a better experience.

Re: Have a fucking website

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Yeah, setting up a website is a pain. But in reality there’s only a handful of things people care about for your restaurant: what, when, and where. Put up your menu, put up your hours, and put up your location. And a phone number.

I specifically tracked this problem and built https://lleu.site to try and get businesses in my city off of social media. Built a menu editor. Has a built in blog and image galleries. Events calendar and event posts. Has a single page simple mode and multi page editor. Contact form with message intake and forwarding. Easy UI that I don’t change underfoot every quarter so its consistent. Works on mobile and low powere…

Restaurants generally have low margins. What brand recognition do social media platforms have with an average person? How much does it cost a restaurant to list themselves on social media? That's your competition, widely-known and free.

You'd probably have better luck if you gave them an actual dotcom address, and you managed all of their online presence for them (Google Maps, Facebook, Instagram, etc.). But even then it's hard to compete with free, especially when your prospective customers are stingy.

Edit: I suppose you're also competing with Uber Eats. You can already see menus there, whether you want delivery or not.

Re: Have a fucking website

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It is simply nuts how much people and businesses underestimate a good website. If you're a small business of any kind, like a single person business, you can have tens of thousands of dollars in sales from just a good website and grow it to hundreds of thousands of dollars in a few years. If you're an already established medium size business, you can boost your sales immensely, and reduce administration and customer…

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Re: Have a fucking website

#557

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I know a twelve year old kid who is proactively using LLMs to build websites for lawn-mowing businesses, calling them up, asking them if they want it for $200, and closing deals in seconds. I know it sounds far-fetched, but he does all the work up-front before even contacting them, using logos and info from Facebook or Google. He's cleared several thousand dollars so far. I get that the owners aren't going to be the…

Once he creates the website, does he also host it and handle the billing for his clients? Is he using a website builder like Square space or hosting on AWS? The hurdle is more than just building the site, a lot of really small non-technical businesses don't want the trouble of handling the billing and maintenance of the site.

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Re: Have a fucking website

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Sounds like what we need is Facebook pages, except as a free service from the government or non-profit.

Do you have any justification in mind for the “free service” being funded by tax payers? Why should it be free for the people who need it, and why should tax payers fund it?

Reading back through my comments, I recognize that omitting the quotes around “free services” would have made my comment here more palatable, and less provocative. That was poor form on my part.

Re: Have a fucking website

#559

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With a website that has a table reservation system you don't have to get interrupted by the phone all the fucking time by people when you're trying to chop onions or set tables.

Dine-in restaurants that are on the fancier side sometimes have that. I know US is phone call adverse but phone call appointments and bookings via talking to a real person rule here. Austria is very old school both in terms of service offerings and in consumer behavior (cash based, tech adverse, etc)

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