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Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by wolvoleo »

robtherobber wrote: post #505
natas wrote: post #383

I recently had dinner in Bellevue with an individual who holds a relatively senior position within Microsoft’s executive leadership. During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. Her per…

I think that this was somewhat obvious to many in the last 10 years or so. There's no reason to fault them for that and, in all fairness, there are few corporate clients on here - or even online, considering Microsoft's market share for certain products and services - that complain about the quality of Microsoft's services and products. What I find difficult to understand is the amount of effort and money that Micros…

As an enterprise admin of Microsoft services I think they're pretty mediocre. Their stuff is always behind the state of the art. It's just good enough to not go for a third party option that isn't included in their bundle pricing. But it never really satisfies, it's always got this 'make do' feeling about it.

The single pane of glass thing is nice but I don't think it's really something you can't do without. I think what really cements them in the enterprise market is their ability to deep discount their bundles.

It's very hard with third party vendors to compete with that. You're not gonna pay $10 per user per month for zoom or slack when you can have teams included in the bundle you're already paying, even if it's not quite as good.

It's like IKEA. It's cheap, it does the job and for that reason almost everyone has it, but I wouldn't call it quality.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by swrobel »

quadruple wrote: post #42

What community is there to house around Microsoft Copilot? Seriously, why does Microsoft Copilot need a Discord Server? What do I talk about when I join the Microsoft Copilot server? What are we doing here?

Sir, this is an Arby’s

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by adornKey »

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #470
adornKey wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Der Ätsch-Browser".

Relevant cultural context from Germany: In Germany, there exists a popular children's game named "Das verrückte Labyrinth" (in English it's simply named "Labyrinth": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_(board_game) ). When you get a corner-shaped card (in German: "Eckkarte") > https://boardgamegeek.com/image/155268/labyrinth from the turn of the previous player, your intended move will typically be more complicat…

Maybe that game exists, but it's an old word and you can find references for it that are hundreds of years old. Its meaning fits to the browser. Your statement that it's just some kind of reference to some special game is not correct.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by wolvoleo »

miriam_catira wrote: post #222
mghackerlady wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The copilot button isn't even a "button" in a traditional sense, it just maps to win+shift+f23

I wish. I got a Dell laptop for work and they've replaced the right Ctrl key with a Copilot key, and (because it's a locked-down work sysyem) the only thing I can remap that to is the Windows menu. And I keep hitting it out of muscle memory, interrupting everything. But at least now it doesn't launch Copilot. Which I could add is "the only AI approved for use by IT" because they hate us.

> Which I could add is "the only AI approved for use by IT" because they hate us.

It's the same at our place. It's basically the lowest effort way as we already have data agreements with Microsoft 365 it eliminates a lot of the paperwork. And they do promise that they won't train on data even in the free (well, included with basic M365) version for corporate users. A lot of others don't unless you pay.

It's too bad because it seems to be the worst AI around. Even compared to ChatGPT itself which uses the same model as copilot in MS Office. I don't really understand why there's such a difference. If you do pay the $30 it's a bit better especially the researcher.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by wolvoleo »

hax0ron3 wrote: post #432
Havoc wrote: post #40

Don’t they have better things to do? Maybe vibecode a taskbar that moves when you try to move away the mouse over it or perhaps a windows 12 installation procedure that requires a fecal sample and iris scan?

The next Windows should run entirely in the cloud and the user's computer should simply show a video feed of the UX that the cloud generates.

They already sell that for business yes. It's called windows 365.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by wolvoleo »

DrBazza wrote: post #103
Maken wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would anyone use Teams?

Because it comes 'free' with an Office365 subscription. Embrace ( It's usually 'management'. The same management that won't pay for developer tools (including Slack) because 'why do you need that when you can do 95% of your work in VSCode?' It's also usually the same sort of management that can do 95% of their documents in... VSCode and markdown. Or LibreOffice.

Yeah or 80% even so they can sound cool and quote the pateto principle. Which isn't meant as an excuse to not bother to do the 20% at all but they use it as such.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by robtherobber »

wolvoleo wrote: post #551
robtherobber wrote: post #505

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that this was somewhat obvious to many in the last 10 years or so. There's no reason to fault them for that and, in all fairness, there are few corporate clients on here - or even online, considering Microsoft's market share for certain products and services - that complain about the quality of Microsoft's services and products. What I find difficult to understand is the amount of effort and money that Micros…

As an enterprise admin of Microsoft services I think they're pretty mediocre. Their stuff is always behind the state of the art. It's just good enough to not go for a third party option that isn't included in their bundle pricing. But it never really satisfies, it's always got this 'make do' feeling about it. The single pane of glass thing is nice but I don't think it's really something you can't do without. I think…

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by sharts »

natas wrote: post #383

I recently had dinner in Bellevue with an individual who holds a relatively senior position within Microsoft’s executive leadership. During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. Her per…

They’ve always been B2B driven. Solving their own internal problems easily lends itself to solving the problems of other comparably sized orgs.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by wolvoleo »

locusofself wrote: post #356

It kindof sucks waking up every day, checking HN or YouTube to see one or several new posts bashing on your employer. Not that many of them aren't warranted, and that a multi-trillion market cap company isn't fair game for criticism. I've surveyed the market pretty heavily, and given my specific credentials, experience, and risk tolerance, unless I got really lucky, I don't know if I could find a better place to work…

Why is it so important though? Your employer is not you. I regularly bash on my own employer too :) Which is not Microsoft but also big.

I don't care about them or their goals, I'm just there for the money. And trying to not show it too much while I'm rolleyeing through corporate PR crap :) All that fake cardboard feelgood propaganda. It's just theatre to hide the reality: they will do anything to make more money.

I used to be more aligned with the company but with a recent internal leadership change and more sucking up to Trump I've lost a lot of my respect for it. But it's not really an impediment for working there. I just go through the motions. Corporations love their employees chanting how much they care (for us it's even mandatory to make a show of it for our performance review) but in reality most of us just fake it. As a result I don't take any criticism personally, even on my direct work.

Don't forget there is no team play, not really. They will dump you as soon as they see fit. All big publicly traded companies do. They care a lot more about their shareholders than they do allot you. The only goals that matter are your own, like supporting your family.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by esseph »

bilekas wrote: post #542
direwolf20 wrote: post #513

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A monopoly on what? The most popular OS is from Google.

Where are you getting this info from? Windows' consumer market share is not even being challenged right now.

Android. Far more devices.

Android ~ 4bn

Windows ~ 1.5bn

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