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Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by fatal94 »

arppacket wrote: post #41
push0ret wrote: post #6

So they agreed to the same red lines that had earlier led to the fallout with Anthropic? Kind of strange.

I bet Sam secretly pledged to DoD that the red lines were only temporary, for optics and to calm employees at the all hands meeting. A few months down the line, OpenAI will quietly decide that their next model is safe enough for autonomous weapons, and remove their safeguard layer. The mass surveillance enablement might be an indirect deal through Palantir.

The fact they were able to strike a deal in the first place hours after Anthropic was declared a supply chain risk should make this obvious. Their employees are smart people, the only way they can reason past this is their compensation.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

charcircuit wrote: post #332
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you choose to call it the "DoW"? Its official name is the Department of Defense, it was titled that way by Congress and only Congress can change it. What is your motivation in using a term that the current administration has started to use? Do you also use the Gulf of America when referrring to the body of water that defines the southern edge of the USA?

The president changed it back to its original name with an executive order. The administration did not just start spontaneously using it.

The president has no authority to do this. Federal departments and agencies are named by Congress, and even the Republicans in Congress have shown no interest in formalizing this.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

j_maffe wrote: post #312
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you choose to call it the "DoW"? Its official name is the Department of Defense, it was titled that way by Congress and only Congress can change it. What is your motivation in using a term that the current administration has started to use? Do you also use the Gulf of America when referrring to the body of water that defines the southern edge of the USA?

If someone is calling themselves a warmonger, they should be called a warmonger.

100%. But the names of US agencies are not the names of people, and not determined by individuals, even the warmongers.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

thejazzman wrote: post #237
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you choose to call it the "DoW"? Its official name is the Department of Defense, it was titled that way by Congress and only Congress can change it. What is your motivation in using a term that the current administration has started to use? Do you also use the Gulf of America when referrring to the body of water that defines the southern edge of the USA?

Don't you think it is more to-the-point to call it what it is and what the people running it with, i'll bet everything i have, absolute immunity, are doing and intend to do with it? It's like the one honest thing they've done

It is "honest" in the historical sense, certainly.

But the executive-order driven name change just another bit of illegal/extra-legal/paralegal behavior by the administration that, every time we just nod along, eats away at the constitutional structure of our government. So don't go along with it.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by addandsubtract »

cowsandmilk wrote: post #371
baconner wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Respectfully, it's very hard to see how anyone could look at what just happened and come to the conclusion that one company ends up classed a "supply chain risk" while another agrees the the same terms that led to that. Either the terms are looser, they're not going to be enforced, or there's another reason for the loud attempt to blacklist Anthropic. It's very difficult to see how you could take this at face value i…

> one company ends up classed a "supply chain risk" while another agrees the the same terms that led to that Never discount the possibility of Hegseth being petty and doing the OpenAI deal with the same terms to imply to the world that Anthropic is being unreasonable because another company signed a deal with him.

Or corruption, in which Trump/Hegseth are getting a kickback from OpenAI, but giving the money to Anthropic would be "worthless" to them.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by brandall10 »

Rebuff5007 wrote: post #342
baconner wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Respectfully, it's very hard to see how anyone could look at what just happened and come to the conclusion that one company ends up classed a "supply chain risk" while another agrees the the same terms that led to that. Either the terms are looser, they're not going to be enforced, or there's another reason for the loud attempt to blacklist Anthropic. It's very difficult to see how you could take this at face value i…

> it's very hard to see how anyone could look at what just happened I think what you are missing is their annual comp with two commas in it.

When the genius of Upton Sinclair and Russ Hanneman come together so eloquently.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Post by onion2k »

readitalready wrote: post #407
baconner wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Respectfully, it's very hard to see how anyone could look at what just happened and come to the conclusion that one company ends up classed a "supply chain risk" while another agrees the the same terms that led to that. Either the terms are looser, they're not going to be enforced, or there's another reason for the loud attempt to blacklist Anthropic. It's very difficult to see how you could take this at face value i…

As an OpenAI employee, quitting wouldn't be a problem, as you have a much higher chance of being successful after quitting than anyone else. You could go to any VC and they would fund you.

This isn't even close to true. VCs aren't silly, and it's not the 2010-2015 days of free money any more. Having a big company on your resume is not enough to land your seed round. You need a product, traction, and real money revenue in most cases.
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