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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #544
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #542

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“No it means 41% don’t necessarily think they’re too aggressive” I think “multiple people ending up dead” is a “too aggressive”

I am talking about other people. I am talking about the statements you can make based off the polls. I don’t understand what the objection is here. I personally think ICE is terrible both in their mission and how they conduct it. I am against this.

I am not casting aspersions on you or anyone else I’ve been replying to here. I am saying that people - including Michelle “this isn’t who we are” Obama who excuse the voters who still support this have their heads in the sand.

This is exactly who 40% of the US is.

Re: Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

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Post by lrvick »

wongarsu wrote: post #440
hpdigidrifter wrote: post #376

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Pardon my skepticism but I find it hard to believe you can actually participate in western society without choosing to have a government mandated tracking device? Maybe you live somewhere this is possible but it's definitely not in the developed world

Phones are required, insering a SIM isn't. Your work and home probably have wifi, and services meant to be used on the go are commonly built with offline use in mind. Especially those you actually need in society A burner phone left at home just for the ability to receive SMS would be helpful for account registrations though

> Phones are required

Depends on how you define a phone. Cell phones are not required but SMS capable phone numbers kind of are.

I ported my cell phone number to a voip provider and get SMS and can even take calls from my desktop, or laptop, or simple voip capable DECT phones around my home as needed.

Re: Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

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Post by lrvick »

jll29 wrote: post #429
dotancohen wrote: post #409

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Though I do have a phone, I do not use WhatsApp. I get the same responses you are getting - people absolutely can not believe that we function in society.

I do not use WhatsApp, Instagram, or FB. You pay a price (we miss many party invitations, only one friend consistently emails us and FB everyone else), but it's worth it. Recently spoke to a colleague in Italy that told me he hates WhatsApp, but is forced to use it because the school of his kids in Rome use it as sole means to communicate, despite this being a legal violation (public organizations in Europe must use…

If a school tried to demand me or my kid have a cell phone or use any proprietary software, or accept the terms of service of a private corporation like meta or google, I would absolutely sue them and turn it into a media shit storm if needed.

Many have done this and won around the world. People just need to stop being cowards.

Re: Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

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Post by lrvick »

PlatoIsADisease wrote: post #451
jll29 wrote: post #429

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I do not use WhatsApp, Instagram, or FB. You pay a price (we miss many party invitations, only one friend consistently emails us and FB everyone else), but it's worth it. Recently spoke to a colleague in Italy that told me he hates WhatsApp, but is forced to use it because the school of his kids in Rome use it as sole means to communicate, despite this being a legal violation (public organizations in Europe must use…

I bought into something like this, removed all social media for 2-3 years. I lost so many connections to people and it seemed to set me back multiple years on my goals. I thought it would make me more productive, instead my userbase got cut in half. I'm never doing that again. Huge mistake.

If your entire social graph only exists on proprietary platforms then cutting that all at once is going to be brutal. I had to be a loud advocate for open solutions, and had to lead by example organizing IRL events myself with oldschool email .ical invites that still work just fine.

Many of the most talented people in the world only exist on free open source platforms. Social media is not the enemy. Proprietary centralized stock price driven social media is the enemy.

Come hang out on #!:matrix.org or other great tech communities on Matrix, and/or get invested in networks like Mastodon.

Re: Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

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Post by lrvick »

dotancohen wrote: post #527
PlatoIsADisease wrote: post #451

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I bought into something like this, removed all social media for 2-3 years. I lost so many connections to people and it seemed to set me back multiple years on my goals. I thought it would make me more productive, instead my userbase got cut in half. I'm never doing that again. Huge mistake.

I've lost connections with "internet friends" but I see my real friends more often than does the average person my age. I wouldn't have it any other way.

Hear hear. The types of people that would stop being friends with you for not using proprietary software and platforms are the type of people that would stop being friends with someone for not eating meat, or some other ethical stance.

These are shitty shallow people, not real friends. Real friends will support, or at least tolerate, your honest ethics based lifestyle choices. Smart people often -prefer- being around people that think differently from them, and being different can even be an asset in making more smart friends.

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Post by codethief »

strcat wrote: post #187
tigrezno wrote: post #81

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what about Graphene?

GrapheneOS only supports devices with isolated radios including but not limited to cellular. It's one of the hardware requirements: https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices The radios on the supported devices can't access the microphone, GNSS, etc. GrapheneOS has never supported a device without an isolated cellular radio since that isolation was in place even with the initial Nexus 5 and Galaxy S4. However, some of…

> GrapheneOS only supports devices with isolated radios including but not limited to cellular.

Does that mean a Pixel with GrapheneOS won't be susceptible to the "attack" (GNSS location request via RRLP/LPP) mentioned by the OP?

Re: Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

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Post by lrvick »

mattmaroon wrote: post #459
lrvick wrote: post #382

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I am a security engineer and I live and work in Silicon Valley with an active social life. None of these things require a phone.

I’m old enough to remember when nobody had a cell phone and we all worked and had social lives. I love it when people think you cant possibly live without something that didn’t exist a short time ago. That said I’d be lost in five minutes if I tried to drive somewhere without gps

> That said I’d be lost in five minutes if I tried to drive somewhere without gps

I used to be that way, but MRI brain scan studies have proven that regular use of GPS actually atrophies the parts of your brain responsible for navigation. You likely need a GPS because you make too much use of a GPS.

I weaned myself off by regularly printing directions or writing them down before I leave. Eventually I finally learned to navigate the san francisco bay area on my own but I always keep a map in the car just in case, though I almost never use it.

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Post by _heimdall »

trimethylpurine wrote: post #531
Forgeties79 wrote: post #492

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You can’t talk about this Republican/Democrat dichotomy over 150 years without acknowledging party realignment. Are you familiar with it? Let me ask you this: what party did Strom Thurman swap to and why?

I'm familiar with this theory and on some issues maybe it's relevant but what I'm referring to here is that Democrats today still seem to be in agreement with Democrats of old on the topic of whether the founders meant to abolish slavery. Republicans say they absolutely did, just as they always have. Democrats say they absolutely didn't, just as they always have. I would argue that realignment occurred geographically…

Are you claiming that the party alignment hasn't switched over time?

I expect that everyone would agree Alabama is a very conservative state. It was voted solid Democrat until the late 80s, at which point the state went republican along with any elected politicians that stayed in office.

If I'm not mistaken, Richard Shelby was elected as a democrat in the early or mid 80s before being the last elected official to switch to the republican party. He stayed in office for decades and had state university buildings named after him.

The voting opinions largely didn't change over that time, only the party name they were voting for.

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

trimethylpurine wrote: post #536
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #535

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There are a lot of excuses being made to dispute the fact that this country literally has slavery built into its founding documents and let Jim Crow laws stand in a part of the country for almost a century later. There was no “expiration date” in the constitution. “Plessy vs Ferguson” was decided by the US Supreme Court after the Civil War which enshrined Jim Crow and “Separate but Equal”. It wasn’t until 1967 that t…

> There was no “expiration date” in the constitution. Article I, Section 9, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution (often called the Slave Trade Clause) prevented Congress from prohibiting the importation of slaves prior to January 1, 1808. This effectively allowed the international slave trade to continue until that date, after which Congress could (and did) ban it. Seems I need to reword my take, as this demands a bit m…

If you can’t ignore court documents, how can you ignore that the Supreme Court specifically condoned “separate but equal” in 1896

Lincoln also didn’t really care about the slaves early on

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/abraham-lincoln-q...

Again, this country has always been built on racism and inequality and was enshrined into the law in some shape or form until the 60s.

This is in no shape form or fashion a “I couldn’t get ahead because of my race” conversation.

I’ve had every door opened to me - private school, academic college scholarship, worked at startups, lifestyle companies, boring enterprise companies and BigTech less than 3 years ago and turned down another one because I refuse to ever go into an office or work for BigTech again.

Re: Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

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Post by stanmancan »

xandrius wrote: post #518
stanmancan wrote: post #503

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Did the sisters know where you lived? Curious if the police provided them with an area and the sisters were able to give a proper address?

Why is it so hard to believe that the police can use our devices to backtrack us, as both carriers and police officers have said numerous times?

Occams razor
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