The Vietnam government has banned rooted phones from using any banking app

Post by immibis » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 3:12 AM UTC

pessimizer wrote: post #396

immibis wrote: post #68

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Claim you don't have a phone, and they'll find a solution.

They won't find a solution to your problem, when one is obvious: buy a phone. They'll find a solution to their problem, which is you: apologize for losing you as a customer, and express a hope that you'll consider them again after you've bought a phone.

Post by grishka » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 3:18 AM UTC

danparsonson wrote: post #547

grishka wrote: post #534

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I've never used a Blackberry but it was much more efficient for me to input text (an essential task for a communication device!) on non-iPhone-style phones with physical buttons.

Nothing useful to add except, god I miss my Bold 9700. Every time I slip on this stupid touchscreen keyboard and make a stupid typo on this stupid phone I howl inwardly and wish pain and endless torment upon everyone who took us down this path away from light and goodness. Grumble grumble

Post by jolmg » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 3:46 AM UTC

add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #117

Fiveplus wrote: post #82

So, if you cannot cryptographically prove to a remote server that your device is running essentially unmodified, vendor-signed software, you are locked out of the economy? The irrefutable part here is that the security model works. Locking down the bootloader and enforcing TEE signatures does stop malware. But it also kills user agency. We are moving to a model where the user is considered the adversary on their own…

> you are locked out of the economy? Not that it excuses the withdrawal of user agency. But I've never used a banking app on my phone before. Anything important I still like to do on a desktop. Though how much longer that's safe, who knows. Apple's model of requiring their permission to run code on your own device will probably spread to everything given enough time.

Post by kube-system » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 3:59 AM UTC

ranger_danger wrote: post #505

kube-system wrote: post #317

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You and the four other people who might do this are just delaying the inevitable.

Only if people roll over and take it. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Post by dorfsmay » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 4:12 AM UTC

thewebguyd wrote: post #444

ploxiln wrote: post #365

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I think, practically, everyone will need at least a cheap-ish android or iphone, perhaps $300 (and a new one every few years ...), to be their locked-down "agent" for using financial or government services. It's not for you, it's for the government/banks, it is their agent for talking to you. Kinda weird, if you think about it. But that seems to be the way it's heading.

Nah, if a bank or some other civic entity wants to have a "secure agent" for transactions/communication with me, then they should be the ones providing that. Much like I expect my employer to provide me hardware, and that hardware is used exclusively for work. I shouldn't have to spend my own money on another device, nor should they be asserting their desires for control onto my own devices.