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Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by eldaisfish »

bluGill wrote: post #528
pastel8739 wrote: post #411

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While it’s true that there is food and shopping in suburbs, I think it’s also true that suburbs are still food and culture deserts, since the food and other amenities is typically far away from most houses.

Not really. Get in a car and you can be at all. For many in the city walking it is about as long to get to those things - the distance is less, but the time is similar and time is what counts.(which isn't very many!) the city is the food desert - there are bars and restaurants, but zero grocery stories. If you want to cook a meal you have to get to the suburbs to buy the supplies.

i take it you are not from the old world? Only in north america will you find dense cities without small, normal grocery stores.

These are incredibly common in all of the old world.

Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by eldaisfish »

nradov wrote: post #513
eldaisfish wrote: post #484

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most people in the US are forced to drive, they don't willingly choose to sink large sums of money into a rolling metal cage.

Speak for yourself. I love my cars. For a relatively modest expense they allow me to go wherever, whenever I want and bring all my stuff with me. This is a miracle of modern civilization.

as is the consequent traffic, pollution and inefficiency that choices like yours add up to.

Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by MangoToupe »

bluGill wrote: post #547
lotsofpulp wrote: post #377

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Bullshit response. It would cost Rivian nothing to allow Apple (and Android) devices to use the monitor in the car as a second screen to be able to play music and whatnot, they just don’t want to to increase vendor lock in. They could easily make their screen compatible with Carplay/Android Auto and provide whatever experience Rivian wants to at the same time, and they could let the drivers choose which to use. And I…

Could they? I've been told Apple certifies every car before they allow carplay and this costs a lot. I can't verify (the people who tell me this are under NDA and so won't speak on the record)

You ain't covered by the NDA so why not name the manufacturer if you ain't trying to talk shit?

Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by hateselfdriving »

bluGill wrote: post #541
hateselfdriving wrote: post #120

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Funny, I have another 30-40 years before I'm "dying off or moving to assisted living". Yet, because I work in software engineering and cybersecurity, you'll have to rip my human-driven cars out of my dead hands before I ever use or own a self-driving vehicle. Don't get me wrong, as another commenter brought up, I hate traffic too, and the annual fatalities from vehicles are obviously a tragedy. Neither of them motiva…

Have you ever looked at how humans drive? Not the drunks, but the average person - they are terrible. You are not better. Self driving doesn't have to be very good to be better than humans.

The _average_ person drives just fine. It's specifically the idiots who either should never have been allowed to pass a driver's test in the first place (i.e. lack the motor skills and/ or mental capacity) and the idiots who are so addicted to their phones they can't go 2 minutes without looking at it. I have a very hard time believing those are the majority or even average based on all my time driving.

Which, these issues can be reduced if we stop giving people small slaps on the wrist for driving in ways that greatly endanger others. Hefty fines, temporary/ permanent driving bans, etc. Make people actually pause to consider their actions for once in their lives.

Wow, an improvement we can start doing _today_, that doesn't involve forking over billions of dollars to tech companies to pump out half-baked "self-driving" capabilities. These companies' mission isn't to save lives, in case that's not obvious, it's to _make money_. They are not and have never been interested in potentially simpler/ better solutions if they don't lead to sucking the consumer dry of their money.

Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by Breza »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #18

Autonomy subscriptions are how things are going to go, I called this a long time ago. It makes too much sense in terms of continuous development and operations/support to not have a subscription -- and subscriptions will likely double as insurance at some point in the future (once the car is driving itself 100% of the time, and liability is always with the self driving stack anyway). Of course, people won't like this…

I agree with you. Subscription revenue has explicitly been part of Tesla's strategy for years. I'm not sure when this statement first appeared in their SEC findings, but this is from their 2021 10-K:

"As our vehicles are capable of being updated remotely over-the-air, our customers may purchase additional paid options and features through the Tesla app or through the in-vehicle user interface. We expect that this functionality will also allow us to offer certain options and features on a subscription basis in the future."

Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by MangoToupe »

bluGill wrote: post #540
rangestransform wrote: post #292

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Think about how many hoopties are already on the road with broken lights, bad alignment, bald tires, no ABS/ESP/TC, dangerous suspension geometry like semi trailing arms, no oil changes, etc. Why don’t we start handwringing about poor vehicle maintenance?

We do in some places. Where I live (Iowa) we don't - but most people take better care of their car than that so it is pointless. As a kid I remember parts of MN requiring inspection and a few years latter dropping it when they realized nearly every car was passing so there was no point (this was emissions only not safety). In Texas there are regular inspections - but if you go to border towns you see a lot of those p…

See this is why people in iowa don't deserve a senator

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Post by bobthepanda »

estearum wrote: post #436
bobthepanda wrote: post #387

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Houston doesn't have zoning laws, but it does have private deed covenants enforced by the city which effectively work as zoning laws. https://www.houstontx.gov/planning/Neighborhood/deed_restr.h...

These allegedly cover only ~25% of residential lots in HTX (mostly the wealthy ones). So sure that's a similar tool and probably distorts things, but I would be very shocked to hear this is anywhere near as important as the infinite supply of ultra-cheap land on the outskirts of town plus public subsidized roads (which will eventually bankrupt the city).

Houston has these, parking requirements, etc. I would argue if anything that mandatory parking requirements have a larger impact than zoning. Parking lots themselves push things farther apart and make not driving unpleasant.

Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by dgarrett »

jerlam wrote: post #49
frankfrank13 wrote: post #25

Is there some tight coupling on autonomy + electric cars? Seems the only 2 viable hands-free car companies are Tesla and Rivian. I don't see myself ever getting an electric car, but it doesn't seem like the big car companies are anywhere near this.

No, there is no coupling between EVs and automation. Ford BlueCruise and Mercedes Drive Pilot are equipped on some ICE vehicles, and are hands-free driving on (some) highways. Mercedes Drive Pilot is classified as L3 which is better than Tesla or Rivian.

> Mercedes Drive Pilot is classified as L3 which is better than Tesla or Rivian.

"DRIVE PILOT can be activated in heavy traffic jams at a speed of 40 MPH or less on a pre-defined freeway network approved by Mercedes-Benz. DRIVE PILOT operates in daytime lighting conditions when inclement weather is not present and in areas where there is not a construction zone." [0]

[0]: https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/manuals/drive-pilot#2

Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by kjkjadksj »

testing22321 wrote: post #502
llbeansandrice wrote: post #388

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I actually see this as a benefit! Cars take up a lot of space and so now there exists massive right of ways that can be used and modified for other transit modes. Take a lane away from personal cars and dedicate it to buses so they can run faster and avoid traffic. Remove some street parking spots and create a protected bike lane or a street market or something else. The extra space can be a huge boon. It’s pavement,…

Agree. But nobody is going to walk or ride in Calgary or Dallas no matter how many lanes you take away. Too much sprawl, too severe weather. There are hundreds of cities like that sadly.

Never heard of DART I guess
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