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Re: Nano Banana Pro

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This is super awesome, but how in the world did they come up with a name "Nano Banana Pro"? It sounds like an April Fools joke.

It was an internal codename that leaked out and then despite trying to use a more corporate-friendly name that was terribly boring (Gemini 2.5 Flash Image), they got trolled into continuing to use nano banana because nobody would stop calling it that. Or that’s how the lore has been told so far

I wouldn’t be surprised if Google shortens the name to NBP in the future, hoping everyone collectively forgets what NB stood for. And then proceeds to enshittify the name to something like Google NBP 18.5 Hangouts Image Editor

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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I don't understand the excitement around generating and/or watching AI-produced videos. To me it's probably the single most uninteresting and boring thing related to AI that I can think of. What is the appeal?

Pretty sure Nano Banana only produces images. Nonetheless, ask it to “create an infographic on how Google works”. Do you not see any excitement in the result? I think it’s pretty impressive and has a lot of utility.

Until people ask it to make convincing misinformation. Pretty, professional looking graphs are already hard to resist.

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Alright results are in! I've re-run all my editing based adherence related prompts through Nano Banana Pro. NB Pro managed to successfully pass SHRDLU, the M&M Van Halen test (as verified independently by Simon), and the Scorpio street test - all of which the original NB failed. Model results 1. Nano Banana Pro: 10 / 12 2. Seedream4: 9 / 12 3. Nano Banana: 7 / 12 4. Qwen Image Edit: 6 / 12 https://genai-showdown.spec…

I think Nano banana pro’s answer to the giraffe edit is far superior to the Seedream response, but you passed Seedream and failed NB pro. Maybe that one is just not a good test?

If you look closely, the NBP giraffe has a gaping hole in it's neck.

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It’s required by EU regulations. Any public generator that doesn’t do it, is in violation of that unless it’s entirely inaccessible from the EU… But of course there’s no way to enforce it on local generation.

The EU didn't define any specific method of watermarking nor does it need to be tamper resistant. Even if they had specified it though, it's easy to remove watermarks like SynthID.

I have been curious about this myself. I tried a few basic stenography detection type tools to look for watermarks but didn’t find anything. Are you aware of any tools that do what you are suggesting?

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First off, apologies for the bad first impression, the team is pushing super hard to make sure it is easy to access these models. - On permission issue, not sure I follow the flow that got you there, pls email me more details if you are able too and happy to debug: Lkilpatrick@google.com - On overall friction for billing: we are working on a new billing experience built right into AI Studio that will make it super ea…

Congrats on the move to Google! Please allow me to rant to someone who can actually do something about this. Vertex AI has been a nightmare to simply sign up, link a credit card, and start using Claude Sonnet (now available on Vertex AI). The sheer number of steps required for this (failed) user journey is dizzying: * AI Studio, get API key * AI Studio, link payment method: Auto-creates GCP property, which is nice *…

You went further with GCP than I did. I was asked repeatedly by support to contact some kind of a Google sales team.

I get the feeling GCP is not good for individuals like I. My friends who work with enterprise cloud have very high opinion about their tech stack.

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Gemini is all over the place for me. Nano Banana produces some great images. Today I asked Gemini to design a graphic based on the first sheet in a Google sheet. It produced a graphic with a summary of the data and a picture of a bed sheet. Nailed it.

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Google has been stomping around like Godzilla this week, and this is the first time I decided to link my card to their AI studio. I had seen people saying that they gave up and went to another platform because it was "impossible to pay". I thought this was strange, but after trying to get a working API key for the past half hour, I see what they mean. Everything is set up, I see a message that says "You're using Paid…

First off, apologies for the bad first impression, the team is pushing super hard to make sure it is easy to access these models. - On permission issue, not sure I follow the flow that got you there, pls email me more details if you are able too and happy to debug: Lkilpatrick@google.com - On overall friction for billing: we are working on a new billing experience built right into AI Studio that will make it super ea…

Maybe if the sign up process encouraged people to send videos (screen-side and user-side could be useful also), of their sign-up and usage experience, the teams responsible for user experience could make some real progress. I guess the question is, who cares, or who is responsible in the organization?

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To try to put a positive spin on it.. It enables smaller teams to put out better quality products Imagine you're an artist that wants to create a video game but you suck at development. You could leverage AI to get good enough code and have amazing art On the other side someone who invested their entire skill tree in development can have amazing code and passable art The more I think about it the more it seems this A…

Undertale Exists. Baba is You Exists. Nethack Exists (and similar games). Dwarf Fortress Exists. Mountains of Indie Horror games made of Unity Store assets exist. Coal, LLC exists. Cookie Clicker Exists. Balatro Exists.

And Stardew Valley... which took 4-5 years. Vampire Survivors. I'm aware of these. They all have one thing in common: limited in scope or massively simplified in some area

Dwarf Fortress still has basically no animations after close to 20 years in development, and spent most of its life in ascii for good reason. The final art pack I'm fairly sure was contracted out

That's my point. Larger scoped projects are gated by capital or bigger founding teams. Maybe they don't have to be. Maybe in the future 3 friends could build a viable Overwatch competitor

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>> - Put a strawberry in the left eye socket. >>- Put a blackberry in the right eye socket. >> All five of the edits are implemented correctly This is a GREAT example of the (not so) subtle mistakes AI will make in image generation, or code creation, or your future knee surgery. The model placed the specified items in the eye sockets based on the viewers left/right; when we talk relative in this scenario we usually (…

There's a classic well-illustrated book, _How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive_, which spends a whole illustrated page at the beginning building up a reference frame for working on the vehicle. Up is sky, down is ground, front is always vehicle's front, left is always vehicle's left. Sounds a bit silly to write it out, but the diagram did a great job removing ambiguity when you expect someone to be laying on the ground…

Port and starboard

I guess car people use “driver side” and passenger side”, but the same car might be sold in mirror image versions

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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To try to put a positive spin on it.. It enables smaller teams to put out better quality products Imagine you're an artist that wants to create a video game but you suck at development. You could leverage AI to get good enough code and have amazing art On the other side someone who invested their entire skill tree in development can have amazing code and passable art The more I think about it the more it seems this A…

I am an artist. I have friends who like to code. I could leverage talking to my friends and saying "hey anyone wanna fool around and make some games". I could get Unreal and one of the 800 game templates available on their store for prices ranging from $0 to a few hundred bucks and start plopping my art in there and fiddling around. There's a bazillion art assets on there for the programmer with no art skills, too. A…

Your unpaid friend or a Unity game template is unlikely to be enough to compete with medium+ scope games

Can't forget animation or sound either. Someone needs to work on the actual game design too! Whose job is it for the marketing? Hope someone has video editing skills to show it off well. Who even did the market research at the start?

It's.. a lot. So normally you have to reallllyyy simplify and constrain what you're capable of

AI might change that. Not now of course but one day?

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