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Android developer verification: Early access starts

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Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

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post #405

Great! Based on this, I would like to sign up to get early access to Android Developer Console (to distribute apps ONLY outside the Play store). The article explains that they will start sending out invitations to people on the waiting list. But it does not say (or I can't find it) how to JOIN the waiting list. Does anyone know how?

I don't see in what world you would want to test this and help Google make this feature better, especially if you're doing it for free.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

#552
post #116

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See the "Empowering experienced users" section. They announced the $25 "verification" plan awhile ago. The new part in this article is that they're going to have it remain possible to install software that didn't do that "verification". > Based on this feedback and our ongoing conversations with the community, we are building a new advanced flow that allows experienced users to accept the risks of installing software…

That quote doesn't say anything about the hoops "experienced users" have to go through in order to install said software.

It says that there will exist a working set of hoops though. Which wasn't the plan before.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

#553
post #252

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1 day is not longish. That would greatly harm apps like F-Droid. You'd have to go through it every time you want to update your apps.

He said one-time.

Yeah, just to turn on the mode.

Perhaps make you do it again after each major OS update, or once a year or something.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

#554
This monopolist dictates its demands. It's pretty outrageous behaviour from a company that has grown by parasitizing Internet infrastructure built with taxpayer money. That's how far you get by bribing every US politician. It's a banana republic, a fucking shit show.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

#555

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Really its probably the dumbass judge that told Google "The apple app store isn't anti-competitive because they don't allow any competitors on their platform" when google asked why the play store was ruled a monopoly and the app store wasn't. I cannot think of a more detached and idiotic ruling than that.

I guess they are going to say whatever to prove the case. The legislation system is highly...closed and shun of laymen.

It's the JUDGE that came up with that reasoning.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

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post #537

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As far as I'm concerned they can grant this permission by default. I just want the power to disable it. A while ago I wanted to scan the NFC chip in my passport. Obviously, I didn't want this information to leave my device. There are many small utility apps and games that have no reason to require network access. So "need" is not quite the right word here. They _want_ network access and they _want_ to be able to bull…

Android doesn't grant this by default, strictly speaking. Rather, an application can enable it by listing it in the application manifest. Most permissions require a question to to the user. Did you find a suitable app? I don't really remember, but https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nxp.taginf... might suit you.

I did find one but it was years ago so I don't remember.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

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post #476
post #391

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If an app updates to require new permissions, or to suddenly require network access, or the owner contact details change, Google Play should ideally stop that during the update review process and let the users know. But that wouldn't be good for business.

An update can become malicious even without change in permissions. E.g. my now perfectly fine QR reader already has access to camera (obvious), media (to read QR in an image file or photo) and network (enhanced security by on-demand checking the URL for me and showing OG etc so I can more informed choose to open the URL) But it could now start sending all my photo's to train an LLM or secretly make pictures of the in…

See that's what the intent system was originally designed to prevent.

Your QR reader requires no media permission if it uses the standard file dialogs. Then it can only access files you select, during that session.

Similarly for the camera.

And in fact, it should have no network access whatsoever (and network should be a user controllable permission, as it used to be — the only reason that was removed is that people would block network access to block ads)

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

#558

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I guess they are going to say whatever to prove the case. The legislation system is highly...closed and shun of laymen.

It's the JUDGE that came up with that reasoning.

Yeah it's the judge.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

#559
post #342

I want to be able to install apps from alternative app stores like F-Droid and receive automatic updates, without requiring Google's authorization for app publication. Manually installing an app via adb must, of course, be permitted. But that is not sufficient. > Keeping users safe on Android is our top priority. Google's mandatory verification is not about security, but about control (they want to forbid apps like R…

The entire SimpleMobileTools situation left such a bad taste in my mouth. No upfront communication, it had to be discovered in a GitHub issue thread after people started asking questions.

It was shady as fuck on Kaputa's part, especially given ZipoApps is an Israeli adware company, a.k.a. surveillance company, and given Israel's track record with things like using Pegasus against journalists/activists or blowing up civilian-owned beepers, this should automatically be a major security incident and at least treated as seriously as the TikTok debacle.

Kaputa should be extremely ashamed of himself and outted from the industry. I and many others would have gladly paid a yearly subscription for continued updates of the suite instead of a one-time fee, but instead of openly discussing such a model with his userbase, he went for the dirtiest money he could find.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

#560

"Allow". This is the entirety of the problem. They are allowing things on my machine that I purchased with monies that I leased my soul for. Anyway, I am already planning for a future in which Google does not feature as prominently as did until now. Small steps so far ( grapheneOS ), but to me the writing the wall is unmistakable. Google got cold feet over feedback and now they can allow things. When negative publici…

> I am already planning for a future in which Google does not feature

This. Currently I am still a paying Google customer for a few things running my freelance side business. I am in the process of migrating my data out of Google Drive and migrating my photos out as well.

Next step is taking back control over my email infrastructure. Especially as google nowadays sorts quite a relevant number of important mail to spam, while allowing more and more crap to pass into my inbox.

Also they one sidedly raised the price because they now have AI included. Fuck them - I am not using their shitty AI and I did not buy that. I am using AI daily - just not the crap product Google shoved down my throat.

garpheneOS/postmarketOS are next on my list. As I have a tertiary device around, I will during the dark months ahead set this up and see if it fits my needs.

With Arch now my daily driver (except for the main job), I plan to use way less US tech vendor crap. There are so many beautiful and not to difficult to use OS solutions out there, easily hostable on servers inside a more sensible jurisdiction.

Also currently working on a solution to get around the enshittified YouTube experience. Without it becoming an unreasonable effort to still watch the interesting things on my big screen in the living room. But automated AI audio translations did this in for me. I already find the automated title translations to be abhorrent - now, having had the absolute shit experience of starting a video and having it dubbed by an awful AI voice was just a bit too much for me.

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