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OpenAI says over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide weekly
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Re: OpenAI says over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide weekly
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A bit of a counterpoint. I've done 3 years of therapy with an amazing professional. I can't exaggerate how much good it did; I'm a different person, I'm not an anxious person anymore. I think I have a good idea of how good human therapy is. I was discharged about 2 years ago. Last Saturday, I was a little distressed about a love-hate relationship that I have with one of the things that I work with, so I tried using A…
Be careful though, because if I were to listen to Claude Sonnet 4.5, it would have ruined my relationship. It kept telling me how my girlfriend is gaslighting me, manipulating me, and that I need to end the relationship and so forth. I had to tell the LLM that my girlfriend is nice, not manipulative, and so on, and it told me that it understands why I feel like protecting her, BUT this and that. Seriously, be careful…
That would be all the Reddit "AmIOverreacting" in training data... :/
Re: OpenAI says over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide weekly
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> We're losing the ability to interact with each other socially, to flirt, Speak for yourself. I live in a city. I talk to my neighbors. I met my ex at a cafe. It’s great
> Speak for yourself. I live in a city. I talk to my neighbors. I met my ex at a cafe. It’s great. What's the birth rate in the civilized world? How many men under 30 are virgins or sexless in the last year?
> How many men under 30 are virgins or sexless in the last year?
Like I said: speak for yourself
Re: OpenAI says over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide weekly
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ChatGPT/Claude can be absolutely brilliant in supportive, every day therapy, in my experience. BUT there are few caveats: I'm in therapy for a long time already (500+ hours), I don't trust it with important judgements or advice that goes counter to what I or my therapists think, and I also give Claude access to my diary with MCP, which makes it much better at figuring the context of what I'm talking about. Also, plea…
How do you connect your diary to an LLM? I've been struggling with getting an MCP for Evernote setup.
Obsidian.
Re: OpenAI says over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide weekly
#555I think the chat interface plays a huge role in this because LLMs are more than good enough to make you feel
like you’re talking to another person, so coupling that with a user interface that was up until a few years ago pretty much exclusively used to talk to other people is a little problematic… it is essentially hijacking the emotional response of talking to a real person through texting.
Re: OpenAI says over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide weekly
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I suspect you've never done therapy yourself. Most people who have worked with a professional therapist understand intuitively why the only helpful feedback from an LLM to someone who needs professional help is: get professional help. AIs are really good at doing something to about 80%. When the stakes are life or death, as they are with someone who is suicidal, that is a good example of a time when 80% isn't good en…
A bit of a counterpoint. I've done 3 years of therapy with an amazing professional. I can't exaggerate how much good it did; I'm a different person, I'm not an anxious person anymore. I think I have a good idea of how good human therapy is. I was discharged about 2 years ago. Last Saturday, I was a little distressed about a love-hate relationship that I have with one of the things that I work with, so I tried using A…
You learned skills your trained therapist guided you to develop over a three year period of professional interaction. These skills likely influenced your interaction with this product.
Re: OpenAI says over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide weekly
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Go to parties.... One of the 5 biggest party days is this Friday, and with it being on a Friday it will be more intense. A solid 3 nights of good parties. That's all you have to do, I do not understand how this is lost on people. Go to parties and have fun and meet people.
> Go to parties.... One of the 5 biggest party days is this Friday, and with it being on a Friday it will be more intense. You mean Halloween? > Go to parties and have fun and meet people. You mean standing with a glass of champagne in hand, smiling, and talking for the sake of talking? I don't understand how this is fun. I tried doing that, albeit without champagne, and that had not yielded anything other than an in…
Yes, Halloween.
>You mean standing with a glass of champagne in hand, smiling, and talking for the sake of talking?
Bruh, you literally just asked how to meet people. Is that not what "talking for the sake of talking" is? What else are you doing when you "meet" people but talking? Do you want to jump straight into helping them move or change a tire or something, I'm sure that's possible, but it's unconventional.
Also yeah, with out the alcohol, it's not the same. Alcohol is the foundation of society, so yes, I mean champagne sucks, but drink something enjoyable. You don't even have to actually talk to people that much, just go drink and hang out. It's not hard.
Re: OpenAI says over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide weekly
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Go to parties.... One of the 5 biggest party days is this Friday, and with it being on a Friday it will be more intense. A solid 3 nights of good parties. That's all you have to do, I do not understand how this is lost on people. Go to parties and have fun and meet people.
But parties aren't fun. They're a chore.
Then you don't want to meet people....
Re: OpenAI says over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide weekly
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We would need the big picture, though... maybe it caused that death (which is awful) but it's also saving lives? If there are that many people confiding in it, I wouldn't be surprised if it actually prevents some suicides with encouraging comments, and that's not going to make the news. Before declaring that it shouldn't be near anyone with psychological issues, someone in the relevant field should study whether the…
I suspect you've never done therapy yourself. Most people who have worked with a professional therapist understand intuitively why the only helpful feedback from an LLM to someone who needs professional help is: get professional help. AIs are really good at doing something to about 80%. When the stakes are life or death, as they are with someone who is suicidal, that is a good example of a time when 80% isn't good en…
I would take it a step back and posit simply, "why does a human require certification to practice therapy, and a computer program does not?"
There should be some liability for malpractrice even if generated by an llm
Re: OpenAI says over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide weekly
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> The reason is that they can enable people to take action on their suicidal feelings, before their suicidal feelings are fixed by the treatment. I see that explanation for the increased suicide risk caused by antidepressants a lot, but what’s the evidence for it? It doesn’t necessarily have to be a study, just a reason why people believe it.
Case studies support this. Which is a fancy way to say, "We carefully documented anecdotal reports and saw what looks like a pattern." There is also a strong parallel to manic depression. Manic depressives have a high suicide risk, and it usually happens when they are coming out of depression. With akathisia (fancy way to say inner restlessness) being the leading indicator. The same pattern is seen with antidepressan…
Can you point me to one of these reviews of case reports? As it is, your reply is too vague to be helpful.